Ziegfeld Theatre

141 West 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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owenspierre81 on May 28, 2008 at 7:34 am

My predictions about HANCOCK and MAMMA MIA were absolutely right.
The action comedy HANCOCK will be shown at the Ziegfeld beginning
July 2nd and after that, the big screen version of the MAMMA MIA
will also be shown at the Ziegfeld beginning July 18th, according
to the Clearview Cinemas website. Am I smart or just good?

owenspierre81 on May 28, 2008 at 7:33 am

My predictions about HANCOCK and MAMMA MIA were absolutely right.
The action comedy HANCOCK will be shown at the Ziegfeld beginning
July 2nd and after that, the big screen version of the MAMMA MIA
will also be shown at the Ziegfeld beginning July 18th, according
to the Clearview Cinemas website. Am I smart or just good?

edblank on May 27, 2008 at 7:05 pm

Does anyone disagree that this offers the most majestic movie experience (with the possible exception of IMAX) left in New York?

edblank on May 26, 2008 at 4:33 pm

Having had several rewarding visits to the Ziegfeld in its early years, including “Sleuth,” I was often dismayed when I vitied NYC in later years to find that it was temporarily closed (“for repairs” or otherwise). Until I read here the long lists of Ziegfeld bookings, decade by decade, and noted the many times the theater was closed for weeks at a stretch – and invariably during my twice-annual visits in early spring and late fall, I had no idea why my timing always seemed to be unlucky. It wasn’t just unlucky timing. I was always facing the probability that the theater would be closed when I happened to be in town. I did luck into a screening of one of the later “Star Wars” films once.

JSA on May 26, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Well, I was not disappointed with “Crystal Skull”. For me, it was a thrill to see our old hero back in the big screen where he belongs. But even a bigger thrill was my son’s smile as we were walking out; he really enjoyed the show.


Coate on May 26, 2008 at 7:52 am

For anyone who was disappointed with the new “Indiana Jones” flick and needs to be reminded how GREAT the original “Raiders Of The Lost Ark” was, then I direct your attention to this little tribute thing I put together and posted on my Yahoo group website. Enjoy the flashback!

alps on May 26, 2008 at 6:52 am

Thank you Ken, I thought this site was for and about movie palaces. That is why I made the comment about, aint it cool news. My son and I are excited about seeing the film again at the Ziegfeld, with red velvet, curtains, popcorn, the works!!! Harrison Ford, in this picture , reminded me of Randolph Scott with a little Gary Cooper from their films in 1950’s, Mr. Ford is one of the last great movie stars and the Ziegfeld screen is the place to see him, and I believe an opening box office of $126 million, puts one finial nail in the coffin of so called self important movie critics.

KenJacowitz on May 26, 2008 at 5:11 am

I don’t want to embarrass anyone by name, but one of the above posters virtually gave away the secret of what the McGuffin is in “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.”

Please all posters! No spoilers! While this is a site for discussing movie theatres, I am all for discussing those movies we all love so much. I don’t expect anyone going to Cinema Treasures not to already know that Rosebud is a sled, but please refrain from giving away spoilers to current films, especially freshly opened movies.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 24, 2008 at 3:33 am

Thanks Al. I admit my expectations were high but only because I expected it to be as good as any of the other three, with the same director, producer and actors on board. The same thing happened with the Star Wars prequels, which were cold and distant compared to the three originals. It seems to be an ongoing problem with Lucasfilm productions.

alps on May 24, 2008 at 3:02 am

Well Bill I wasn’t speaking about you. I did read your post and you did watch the trilogy (!) This was a comment on the state of American cinema. In 1981 there were a lot of critics that did not like Raiders. Carrie Rickey, of the Philadelphia Inquier blames Indiana Jones for the “dumbing down” of movies, a statment that I do not share. You, like so many did walk into that theater with your expectations too high, the film could never live up to. So, I stand by my post and please don’t be sorry because you didn’t like it.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 23, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Sorry, Al, but I was just giving my honest opinion of the movie. Believe me, I wanted to like it as much as you did. And for the record, I was 26 years old when “Raiders of the Lost Ark” first came out so the Indy movies were not childhood memories.

alps on May 23, 2008 at 7:19 pm

I did not know that, this site had become a link to, ain’t it cool news.com. I watch the film with a big bag of buttered popcorn, and enjoyed it. This whole, “I was disappointed” bit is wearing thin. The movie could not compete with the one that was running in your head, since you just had to watch the Indy trilogy before you saw “Kingdom”. Some not having the common sense to realize that, movies you’ve seen as a kid, back when you had no worries or cares, are shocked and surprised when the same giddiness doesn’t happen when they make “a new one” in your adult years. For most of us, life has changed after school/college, jobs, marriages, children etc. and what some of s cannot achieve in our own lives, we tend to be over critical of art and of artists. Before Star Wars (1977), movie reviews appeared days later in your local newspaper, now as in the case of The Phantom Menace (1999), a month before it’s release, placing the seed of doubt in the minds of moviegoers. Movies today, are reviewed to death, every little rinky dink newspaper has a so called movie critic, and thanks to the internet, John Q Public gets to weigh in as well. Unless you have stock in Viacom, what this movie makes is none of our business. Steven Spielberg said, in this picture Indy “grows up”, and he does. When Indy sees the mushroom cloud, and nearing the begining of the 1960’s, he knows that the time of awe and adventure is coming to an end. Now for him, love and family is the greatest adventure of all. My Ziegfeld veiwing is in a few weeks, I am sorry the film is not in digital, Indy fans, see the film again it is preety good.

ZiegfeldMan on May 23, 2008 at 6:05 am

In the original on-the-set interview shown at Comic-Con last summer (I think that’s what it’s called), I remember that Spielberg specifically addressed the Indy audience saying that he was making the film “for you,” i.e. all Indy fans. While on line, I asked one of the smiling people leaving the previous showing what she thought. I knew this was risky for me. She said it was “awesome.”

This film will either be dead after the weekend or will have “legs” into the summer. Will be interesting to see.

On another note, the premise of the Will Smith “Hancock” film looks very interesting. That may be the movie of the summer. Unfortunately, plenty of CGI, but if well written, I’ll go for it.


Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 23, 2008 at 5:04 am

When looking back on what I didn’t like about it, there are several reasons: the weak story, the general tiredness of the whole affair as if the only reason the movie was made was to rake in the dough – but I keep going back to the overuse of CGI. Filmmakers can now put anything they can imagine on the screen with very little effort, but it’s ruining the movies. At least it’s ruining the sequels to older movies that were made without CGI. I’m just old-fashioned, I guess.

Pete – maybe the score is better on CD, but in the movie it makes hardly any impression at all. I came out of the theater whistling the music from “Temple of Doom”.

ZiegfeldMan on May 23, 2008 at 4:33 am

Hi Peter and Bill:

I went in with the same attitude of “lowered expectations,” which is a sad way to go into a film—but it doesn’t mean that I was determined to like the film no matter what it turned out to be.

What makes “Raiders” great is not only its novelty, but especially its great screenplay and richly drawn characters and the chemistry between them, the “quieter” moments—the scene where Indy thinks Marion is dead, their scene on the ship (“It’s not the years, it’s the mileage”), the interplay between Indy and Bellacq, all of this has been sorely lacking in the sequels, except, perhaps, the father-son stuff in “Last Crusade.” And for me, that’s the only thing that redeemed that film.

Everyone brings his own baggage to a movie. I think what really makes the new film for me is putting Marion and Indy back together. That was a smart move. The rest is “formula,” brought up to the 1950’s-which is interesting and fun.

Am I glad they even bothered—yes, I am. I didn’t walk out angry as I did with “The Lost World.”

The film does have things going for it even if it’s not “Raiders,” although I wish it were.


PeterApruzzese on May 23, 2008 at 3:17 am

Since I was very disappointed in Temple of Doom and mildly disappointed in Last Crusade, I’m going in to this one with little to no expectation or anticipation.

Bill, John Williams' music score on the CD is very good, but the film has been treated to a Ben Burtt sound mix, which means it’s probably buried under the sound effects and dialed down way to low in his usual manner. I’ll be seeing it tomorrow afternoon at the Lafayette.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 23, 2008 at 2:43 am

Some good things – they used the curtains for the 10 AM show, the 35mm print was excellent as Gary said, and so was the sound. The Ziegfeld is still the best place to see it.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 23, 2008 at 2:40 am

Glad you liked it, Gary, but I was left disappointed. Maybe I shouldn’t have re-watched the other 3 over the last few days, but the same sense of fun and excitement just wasn’t there in the new one. I blame all that CGI – seeing the digital Shia LaBoeuf or whatever that was in the jeep scene really turned me off the whole movie. Compare that to the under-the-truck stunt in “Raiders”, which a real human being actually did. I sound like a party pooper, but that’s what the movie seemed like to me. A couple of good scenes here and there, but overall not so good.

Real 1950’s sci-fi B pictures like “The Brain From Planet Arous” and “Teenagers From Outer Space” were much more enjoyable. I thought “Crystal Skull” was going to re-create the feel of those old movies, but it just left me wanting to see the old ones again and forget all about “Skull”. People were afraid it was going to be like “The Phantom Menace”, but that was actually a much better experience in every way. Even the music for “Skull” was bland – I’m surprised at John Williams.

Sorry to be so negative. I’d be interested to hear other opinions on it.

ZiegfeldMan on May 23, 2008 at 2:32 am

Movie 534:

Yes, I absolutely do know where you stand on this. The film looks magnificent. Is it a great film?-well, I had FUN, which is exactly what I wanted.

Check out Roger Ebert’s review-I think he nailed it:

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A great weekend to you and to all.


markp on May 23, 2008 at 2:21 am

Hi Ziegfeld Man, Movie534 here, as far as your above post, well you know where I stand on that. After 33 years in the booth, film is it for me. However, I am glad to here that you enjoyed the new Indy movie. I am getting ready for work now. I will be running 4 prints of it in the place I work at today. I may even be able to watch the last show, as it is the last one to start for the day. I wont be getting home till after 2 a.m., but if I see it, I’ll leave a post on how I liked it. Have a nice holiday weekend.

ZiegfeldMan on May 23, 2008 at 2:12 am

Re: Digital vs. Film

Yes, I expected that Spielberg was going digital, as well.

But check this out:

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AND THEN, check this out, which totally contradicts:


Regardless, what arrived at the Ziegfeld was film and not a hard drive- what do you think is better? The debate goes on!


ZiegfeldMan on May 22, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Indy is Back!!

For opening day, it was very nice to see a line down the street and up the avenue as I exited the 4 PM show. The curtains closed and opened for the feature and the print (on film, not digital) is gorgeous. For me, the movie is “popcorn fun” which is all I wanted—just nice to have Indy AND Marion back, and I loved the ending.
Can it have been better-yes!
Can it have been worse-yes!
Did I have a great time at the Ziegfeld with Indy?


celboy on May 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm

Just came from the 715 opening day Indy 4. It was advertised as digital yet we ended up with film. Was there a problem?

owenspierre81 on May 22, 2008 at 5:44 am

I have a good feeling that the Will Smith action comedy HANCOCK will
be shown at the Ziegfeld on July 2nd and then the movie version of
MAMMA MIA on July 18th at the Ziegfeld. Hopefully :)

Here are the Will Smith films that were shoen at the Ziegfeld
7/16/04- I, ROBOT
10/1/04- SHARK TALE

ZiegfeldMan on May 17, 2008 at 2:38 am

Hi Al:

Don’t forget about the next Bond-due in November? Just my opinion, but I’m going into Indy with my expectations under control. After 19 years, Spielberg, et. al., repeatedly said they would get it right. I’m not reading any reviews or posting any here,

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