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Also known as RKO Palace Theatre

Palace Theatre

New York, NY
1564 Broadway
, New York, NY 10036 United States
(map)
Status: Open
Screens: Single Screen
Style: Adam, Neo-Classical
Function: Stage Shows
Seats: 1733
Chain: Unknown
Architect: Charles Kirchoff, Thomas Rose
Firm: Kirchoff & Rose
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The Palace Theatre of New York City, the one that virtually inspired them all, started out as a vaudeville theatre on March 24, 1913. It continued in that use until November of 1932 when it began showing movies under the direction of RKO. This continued until 1966, when it became a legitimate theatre. For most of the memory of those alive today, it was a non-movie theatre, and is, indeed, perhaps best remembered as the "Valhalla of Vaudeville" as it was dubbed in the day and age when to 'play the Palace' referred to the acme of aspirations of vaudevillians and to this day a way of saying that one has 'made it big!'

When the Palace Theatre debuted its 1,733 seats at 1564 Broadway, it was within a ten story office building that was squeezed between previous buildings on some of the most expensive real estate frontage in the world. Architects Charles Kirchoff and Thomas Rose of Milwaukee were therefore limited to showing their artistry in the three-level auditorium with its sixteen boxes cascading down the walls toward the stage, while being under a graceful arch forming a stylized sunburst above them on either side. In 1920, a grille in this arch was used to front the new organ chambers for the recently installed two manual, four rank Wurlitzer theatre pipe organ to accompany occasional film novelties that would become not so novel in the next decades. The organ was remarkably small in size for so prestigious a house, but perhaps the management of the time did not foresee the future dominance of film and the need that silent movies had for a good sized organ. Projectors had been installed in March, 1915 under a slight remolding by architect James S. Gavigan. The theatre was wired for sound movies in 1929, a pivotal year in many respects.

Just why an architectural firm in far away Milwaukee was selected for the prime Palace Theatre, is not known, since it would be years to come before this team was well known for the movie palaces with which they would grace that and other cities, ten in Milwaukee alone. Perhaps it was Martin Beck himself, impresario of the Palace Theatre, who was touring his Orpheum Vaudeville theatres across the land and happened to admire the gracefulness of the 2,500-seat Alhambra Theatre there, and resolved to have its architect design his new showplace in a somewhat similar style.

Here in the Palace Theatre, it was also to be a combination of Neo-Classical and Adam periods. A relatively simple styling that did nothing to suggest the movie palaces to come, it was characterized by moldings of such as fruit festoons and bead-and-reel to outline the panels into which the walls and ceiling were divided. Perhaps there were very elaborate draperies on the proscenium, but the only found photos are from 1951 and reflect replacements to accommodate the large movie screen of the era, so that as of then, only simple panels of velour in 50% fullness constitute the grand drapery and the house curtain, any draperies in the boxes having by then been removed. Both sides of the main floor seating also boasted a cascading line of elevated (parquet style) boxes from the balcony line forward to the annunciator frames of the drop-card style. In 1939 the lobby and marquee had been altered, and were later completely redone again. The entire facade was largely demolished in the 1980's, but the interior is virtually intact.

Why did this one theatre rise to such prominence? It is a long and complicated story, as one might expect of a theatre created at the joining of eras in exhibition, but perhaps it is as claimed in the noteworthy book: "Show Biz: From Vaude to Video" by Abel Green and Joe Laurie, Jr., that it was the coup in obtaining the appearance of the great French tragedian Mme. Sarah Bernhardt, that capped the very long list of notables of both the Vaudevillian and legitimate stages, as so ably brought out in this book, and in the book: "The Palace" by Marian Spitzer in 1969. This was for years the 'Flagship' theatre of the RKO circuit and even once housed the offices of this dominant national theatres/vaudeville circuit.

Today, it is often the host to long-running Disney stage epics and other hit musicals, and in that vein may it long continue!
Contributed by James H. (Jim) Rankin


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There were a couple of attempts to revive the theatre as a movie house in the 70s...Saw Gone with the Wind here with my dad...the perfect setting
posted by SethLewis on Mar 31, 2004 at 6:43am
One of the first attempts to return the Palace to its live roots happened in 1951. Sid Luft booked Judy Garland who had recently been let go by MGM for a 4 week engagement of concerts. Not only did Judy sell out those 4 weeks, the run was extended 26 weeks to sold out mobs. This is considered the engagement that turned Judy Garland from a movie star into a living legend. Judy returned again in 1956 and again finally in 1967. She always considered The Palace home, in fact her last run there was called "Judy Garland At Home At The Palace". As far as movies go, they played on and off until the late 60's. Valley of The Dolls did sellout business here in the Christmas of 1967. Across the street Fox had a billboard that was advertising the film for months. Judgement at Nuremberg may also have opened here a few years earlier in a reserved seat roadshow.
posted by RobertR on Apr 8, 2004 at 10:35am
The first attempt at reviving vaudeville at the Palace was in 1949, when RKO circuit chief Sol Schwartz noticed the popularity of variety shows on newfangled TV and guessed rightly that plenty of people would rather see the same type of entertainment "live." He switched the Palace from first-run movie house to a policy of 8 acts of vaudeville, with a "B" movie thrown in to give the entertainers a break between shows. None of the performers were big stars, but many had been headliners in the heyday of vaudeville. Programs changed weekly and were such an enormous success that RKO started the same policy at some of its key theatres in other cities. Results were varying, but the Palace held on for about two years before the novelty wore off. It was then that Schwartz returned the Palace to its traditional vaudeville policy, starting with Judy Garland, who headlined a bill that also included other "acts."
posted by Warren G. Harris on Apr 8, 2004 at 2:08pm
The first movie I ever saw in New York was at the Palace, THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK in August, 1959.
posted by Gerald A. DeLuca on Apr 8, 2004 at 2:34pm
The Palace was a reserved-seat movie house for a few years, starting perhaps with "The Bridge on the River Kwai." After seeing it there, I never returned because the projection left much to be desired, perhaps due to the fact that the theatre wasn't built for movies. The booth that was installed later was so high up that the screen had to be tilted towards it.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Apr 9, 2004 at 6:58am
Wow I never heard that before, I do know that one time I walked up to that very top balcony which I believe has not been used since La Cage Aux Folles was selling out. It was sooooooo high up and only offered a parrtial view. I am trying to recall if the booth was above or below that level.
posted by RobertR on Apr 9, 2004 at 9:02am
As I child, I remember going to the Palace and seeing movies with the 8 act vaudeville shows. Later on I saw many musicals at this theatre. I also recall sitting in the top balcony-which like many other theatres of that era was known as the "nose bleed" section. What a difference experience as compared to sitting the in the orchestra! How fortunate a way was found to save this theatre- even though the original facade was destroyed.

posted by ERD on Jun 24, 2004 at 8:15pm
I was recently here again to see AIDA. This place is maintained immaculately. This is one of the few theatres that New York should be proud of.
posted by RobertR on Sep 15, 2004 at 8:13pm
I went to see Beauty and the Beast at the Palace after it first opened. I met someone there from, I think, Playbill Magazine. He told me that the Doubletree Hotel, or whatever they call it nowadays, that was built over the theater does not touch the theater's roof. I think that's a real feat of engineering.
posted by Gustavelifting on Nov 22, 2004 at 7:48pm
As a child in the 50's I went to the Palace several times. Vaudeville was still being done as late as 1956. I saw Four Girls in Town and remember some tacky vaudeville acts were also on the bill. Also remember seeing two reserved seats pics there The Diary Of Anne Frank and Judgment At Nuremberg. The other big reserve seat film at the time of Judgement was West Side Story at the Rivoli. The last time I went to the palace was in 67 to see Judy Garland.
posted by ij on Dec 11, 2004 at 7:10am
According to a friend her parents vaudeville act The Parisian Four performed here along with Burnes & Allen.. they also did the circuits of Balabum & Katz and Pantages.. starting out in theatres approx 1918 (pre vaudeville) and continuing up to about 1940 in various venues
posted by Dorothy from Oz on Dec 19, 2004 at 3:37am
Robert R...

VALLEY OF THE DOLLS played at the Criterion in 1967. The Palace reopened as a movie Theatre in 1969 with a double bill of A STRANGER IN TOWN and THE STRANGER RETURNS. Soon after, BEN-HUR roadshowed here in 1969.
posted by Don Rosen on Jan 15, 2005 at 5:22pm
Don:

Was there a roadshow re-release of Ben Hur? I remember seing it in my suburban L.A. neighborhood theater before I graduated from high school in 1962.
posted by Joe Vogel on Jan 15, 2005 at 5:37pm
Yes. Ben-Hur ran on two shows a day for a few months at the Palace during a re-release, followed by the roadshow of GOODBYE MR. CHIPS.
posted by Don Rosen on Jan 16, 2005 at 1:54am
This is an old ad for the RKO Palace. The movie "Follow Me Quietly" dates the ad to around 1949.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/images/s53e.2.jpg
posted by Lost Memory on Mar 16, 2005 at 9:16am
Filming location for All That Jazz (1979).
posted by TC on Apr 14, 2005 at 1:10pm
Here is a marquee shot from the movie years.
posted by RobertR on May 20, 2005 at 8:50am
When did the Palace become a Broadway Theatre?
posted by Gustavelifting on May 20, 2005 at 3:50pm
The Palace went back and forth many times in the 50's, 60's and 70's between live theatre and film. By the late 70's it was only live theatre.
posted by RobertR on Jun 10, 2005 at 5:09pm
When did Aida close? I wanted to see it, but never did.
posted by Gustavelifting on Jun 12, 2005 at 5:07pm
I just found an ad from Hitchcocks "Frenzy" in July of 1972 and it opened Universal Blue Ribbon Showcase at the Palace which was advertised as Pacific DI's Palace.
posted by RobertR on Jun 13, 2005 at 4:57am
I think the Palace "really" permanently reopened as a "legit" Broadway theater with the opening of "Sweet Charity" on January 29, 1966. If I recall correctly, it was the Nederlander (?) organization's first New York theater, and at that time they were trying to break into the New York theater scene.

It seems to me that from this point on, the Palace has always been primarily a "legit" theater with, mostly musicals like "Henry Sweet Henry" (1967), "George M" (1968) "Applause" (1970), Lorelei (1974) being booked into the house.

There is an apparently complete list of "legit" shows that have played at this theater at the Internet Broadway Database website. Here's a link:

http://www.ibdb.com/venue.asp?ID=1317

RobertR mentions that the Palace also occasionally played movies between "Sweet Charity" and the late 1970's. I don't remember this -- although it is certainly possible. My guess, though, is that if it did play movies, it was as a special event or a limited engagement and not because the theater owners were back in the movie business. I say this (and it's only a guess), because after "Sweet Charity," it seemed to me that the Palace was considered one of Broadway's "prime" theaters, especially for musicals.

By the way, as a teenager, I stood outside the Palace on its "opening" (as a Broadway theater) night, just to see what it would be like. I vaguely recall also standing outside some other Broadway theaters on other opening nights too (at least until late afternoon or very early in the evening) to see what they were like, and the few that I "attended" were somewhat low-keyed and disappointing. The opening for "Sweet Charity" (and its "new" Broadway theater) however, was a "classic" opening night. I suspect this was because the people connected with the show were considered Broadway "royalty" (Verdon, Fosse, Fields, Simon, Coleman, etc.) and because of the special "fabled" nature of the "new" theater being premiered as a "legit" Broadway playhouse.

For a minute or two, the people standing next to me observing this scene was a young actor-singer whom I had seen on, if I recall correctly, the "Tonight" show and a friend (or agent). The actor-singer was the then up-and-coming John Davidson.

posted by Benjamin on Jun 13, 2005 at 6:23am
I have no idea where to post this question but does anyone know where in NYC "Citizen Kane" had it's premiere?
posted by CConnolly on Jun 13, 2005 at 7:51am
The RKO Palace. No one else would open. Hearst scared everyone away.
posted by Don Rosen on Jun 13, 2005 at 9:06am
Ah...that's what I figured, that it had to have been The Palace.

Thanks!
posted by CConnolly on Jun 13, 2005 at 9:53am
Believe it or not, "Pillow Talk" with Doris Day and Rock Hudson played the Palace ( day dating with the new Murray Hill) in the fall of 1959.. I think the management of Radio City Music Hall must have been out of their minds, booking " A Summer Place" instead.. Yikes! Subsequently, all of the other Doris Day romantic comedies played the Music Hall.
posted by StephenJohansen on Jun 13, 2005 at 10:50am
P.S. I just saw " All Shook Up" at the Palace.. It was a wonderful no brainer old fashioned rock & roll musical... A great treat especially for out of town tourists.
posted by StephenJohansen on Jun 13, 2005 at 10:52am
With the exception of RCMH, the Palace seemed the most logical place for "Citizen Kane" to make its NYC debut because it was an RKO theatre and the movie was an RKO release. I don't think that Hearst's opposition to the movie had anything to do with it. And "Citizen Kane" did not seem suited to RCMH since it was an avant-garde movie for its time and had no major stars in the cast. It seems unlikely that "Kane" would have opened at the Capitol, Roxy, Paramount, Stand, or Hollywood, which were controlled by the studios that owned them. I suppose it might have opened at the Rivoli, Criterion or Astor, but RKO stood to earn more by running it at one of its own theatres.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jun 13, 2005 at 1:08pm
In response to a comment made on this thread early on, I think "Judgement at Nuremburg" played on reserved seat at the DeMille Theatre (Embassy 2-3-4). I am not 100% sure and maybe someone else would be. When that movie was released, I was in high school. However, I remember being in NYC during its release and I thought I remember walking past the DeMille and it was showing there. Anyone else want to hazard a guess?
posted by DennisZ on Jun 14, 2005 at 4:18pm
I may be guessing, but I recall seeing it during the roadshow engagement at the Palace.
posted by Astyanax on Jun 14, 2005 at 4:51pm
"Nuremburg" opened roadshow at the Palace.
posted by RobertR on Jun 14, 2005 at 5:17pm
December 15, 1964 that all time classic baddie "Santa Claus Conquers The Martians" opened. Young Pia Zadora starred in this Joseph E. Levine production advertised as being filmed in "space blazing color". The 2nd feature was the full length animated feature "The Snow Queen". This feature would become a kiddie matinee staple for most of the Christmas' of the 60's. It opened on Broadway at the RKO Palace and also at RKO 86th St. In Brooklyn at the RKO Albee, RKO Dyker, RKO Kenmore and Town & Countrys Seaview. In the Bronx RKO Fordham. In Queens RKO Keiths, RKO Columbia, RKO Alden and Skouras Forest Hills. Staten Island at the Paramount. In Long Island Skouras Glen Cove, Skouras Playhouse Great Neck, Skouras Calderone, Town & Country Hicksville North & South, Centurys York and Skouras Lynbrook.
posted by RobertR on Jun 15, 2005 at 2:49pm
In my above post I forgot to add that all of the RKO theatres playing "Santa" had a Christmas magic show and santa live at each theatre on stage for Sat & Sun matinees.
posted by RobertR on Jun 15, 2005 at 2:58pm
What is this, Christmas in July? (LOL) All kidding aside, I enjoyed reading about the strange Holiday fare that came to the Palace. I would never guess that such shlock as SANTA CLAUS AND THE MARTIANS played theaters on Broadway.
posted by Gustavelifting on Jun 15, 2005 at 5:27pm
"Was there a roadshow re-release of Ben Hur? I remember seing it in my suburban L.A. neighborhood theater before I graduated from high school in 1962." (Joe Vogel)
*************************************

For the premiere dates and other details, see:

"Ben-Hur" original L.A. roadshow release:
http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/70mm_in_los_angeles_1959.htm

L.A. roadshow re-issue
http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/70mm_in_los_angeles_1969.htm

New York original roadshow:
http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/70mm_in_new_york_1959.htm

New York roadshow re-issue:
http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/70mm_in_new_york_1969.htm
posted by Michael Coate on Jun 15, 2005 at 6:35pm
Anyone know which company operated the Palace during the late 1960s & early 1970s?
posted by Michael Coate on Jun 15, 2005 at 6:36pm
Throughout most of the 1970s it was a Broadway House, and did not show movies.
posted by Gustavelifting on Jun 16, 2005 at 4:28pm
Like Pillow Talk before it "Send Me No Flowers" also opened at the RKO Palace for Christmas of 1964.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/SendMeNoFlowers.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jun 25, 2005 at 3:26pm
Here is the ad from the Richard Burton Electronovision version of Hamlet. It opened at the RKO Palce and on the RKO neighborhood run 2 a day.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/HamletinElectronovision.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jun 28, 2005 at 5:25pm
Before the "Hamlet" engagement RKO actually did a mail order even for the nabes.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/Hamletorderform.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 8, 2005 at 1:40pm
Here's a September, 1941 ad for "Citizen Kane" when it shifted to popular prices at the Palace and also opened at the Albee in downtown Brooklyn. "Kane"'s next stop would be the RKO circuit, with "Mexican Spitfire's Baby" as a second feature:
www.i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/125-2515_IMG.jpg
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jul 11, 2005 at 8:35am
"Mexican Spitfire's Baby"! Lupe Velez! Leon Errol! Buddy Rogers! Zazu Pitts! Not only what many consider to be the greatest movie of all, but as part of a double feature that I imagine has to have been the greatest double feature of all! An inspired pairing--I never knew that it happened that way.
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Jul 11, 2005 at 8:47am
Send Me No Flowers opened as the Thanksgiving '64 Music Hall film.
posted by Vincent on Jul 11, 2005 at 9:15am
And at Christmas it was at the Palace?????????????
posted by RobertR on Jul 11, 2005 at 9:18am
Well the Music Hall was stuck with Father Goose for the Christmas show.
posted by Vincent on Jul 11, 2005 at 11:19am
A friend of mine from high school worked here as an elevator operator during the mid seventies, and he brought me in to see the theater and Bette Midler's show. Both were pretty mindblowing
posted by jackeboy on Jul 11, 2005 at 5:54pm
Saw 'Applause', 'Woman Of The Year', 'Treemonisha', A Bette Midler Concert, 'Lorelie, and 'Shirley McClaine' here.
posted by Carl ` on Jul 13, 2005 at 6:19am
Here is a night time marquee shot
http://phantomdragon.com/THELEGEND/renault3.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 13, 2005 at 10:35am
Playbills when Liberace played here in the 1950's.
http://www.bobsliberace.com/decades/1950s/1950s.html
posted by RobertR on Jul 13, 2005 at 10:36am
The Palace in 1949
http://www.vintagephotos.com/Unsigned%20Page%2020.htm
posted by RobertR on Jul 13, 2005 at 10:38am
In the summer of 69 they were showing double feature movies. That ended during the summer as they prepared for Applause. It has been a legit theater ever since. They were closed for 3- 4 years while they built the Doubletree. I hate the new marquee. The old one had class.
posted by Mikeoaklandpark on Jul 13, 2005 at 10:59am
Here is a picture of Orson Welles at the premier of Citizen Kane in 1941:

http://imagesrvr.epnet.com/embimages/imh/mptv/full/mptv05800283.jpg

Source: MPTV
Caption: Orson Welles at the premiere of "Citizen Kane" 1941 RKO **I.V.

Caption doesn't state location, but marquee looks like the Palace.

posted by TC on Jul 15, 2005 at 8:42am
Here is an ad mentioning vaudeville again in the 50's
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/PhantomofRueMorgue.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 17, 2005 at 5:12am
"Blackout" opened at the Palace on 21 May 1954. The theater's Vaudeville-cum-movie shows in those days changed every week.

I had forgotten that "Phantom of the Rue Morgue" and "Creature from the Black Lagoon" (each of which had opened separately at the Paramount earlier that Spring) toured the RKO circuit in a 3-D double-bill. And that, on the Loew's circuit, "Red Garters" and "Top Banana" (which I believe had opened in 3-D at the Astor and the Victoria theaters respectively) made their neighborhood tours in 2-D projection. Polaroid viewing had lost its appeal.
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Jul 17, 2005 at 6:39am
BTW, does the RKO nabe ad imply that "Creature" was not shown in 3-D? I remember seeing it that week at the Dyker and could swear that it was in 3-D. I'm certain that the Paramount showed it in 3-D.
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Jul 17, 2005 at 6:43am
I believe that only "Rue Morgue" was shown in 3-D on the double bill with "Black Lagoon." Two movies in 3-D with glasses would have been too much for most patrons to endure in one sitting. "Rue Morgue" got the 3-D presentation because it was also in color, while "Black Lagoon" was in B&W.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jul 17, 2005 at 6:49am
What a downer! For fifty-one years I've believed that I saw "Creature" in 3-D as God meant it to be. Possibly I derived something of a 3-D effect from it by looking at it cross-eyed. As a movie-mad kid, I discovered that crossing my eyes at a flat image could do that. Years later an ophthalmologist told me (1) that there is some truth to my assumption and (2) that viewing so many movies strabismically provided good exercise for my young optic nerves. Who knows? I began wearing eyeglasses in my mid-twenties and am now a prisoner of bi-focals.
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Jul 17, 2005 at 7:32am
Judys record breaking first engagement
http://www.musicals101.com/News/judypalace.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 19, 2005 at 10:52am
Year?
posted by Gerald A. DeLuca on Jul 19, 2005 at 12:11pm
1951
posted by RobertR on Jul 19, 2005 at 12:13pm
How long was she on stage considering it was two a day 7 days a week and there was a bill of other acts?
posted by Vincent on Jul 19, 2005 at 12:35pm
Judy performed for at least an hour, try getting a star to do that nowadays.
posted by RobertR on Jul 19, 2005 at 12:44pm
JUDY GARLAND dodn't just play the PALACE, the same show also played Washington DC's best-ever theater, LOEW'S CAPITOL. Also in Baltimore at their lavish STANLEY, where I saw it. An hour? No, it was 2 hours.
posted by rlvjr on Jul 21, 2005 at 6:46pm
Ray Charles & Sarah Vaughn played the Palace in 1957 with an Italian import
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/RaySarahatPalace.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 23, 2005 at 6:24pm
Did Sinatra ever play the stage on the palace?
posted by Gustavelifting on Jul 24, 2005 at 6:10pm
Sinatra never played a regular concert at the Palace, but I know that when William B. Williams died, he was one of the performers that were part of the memorial service WNEW held there.
posted by RobertR on Jul 25, 2005 at 10:09am
Warner Brothers called their showcase "Hollywood Showcase" when "Dead Ringer" played the Palace in 1964.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/?action=view¤t=DeadRinger.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 25, 2005 at 10:13am
If you go to the next page of the above link you see the ad for the post Criterion showcase reissue of My Fair Lady in '71 which says in Super Panavision 70. I think we could safely assume that this is false advertising.
posted by Vincent on Jul 25, 2005 at 11:25am
Thanx Robert R.
posted by Gustavelifting on Jul 26, 2005 at 5:17pm
"Goodbye Mr. Chips" in 1969 must have been one of the last roadshows at the Palace
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/PaintYourWagon.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 27, 2005 at 5:04pm
1962 Bobby Darin & Sandra Dee
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/Movie%20Theatres/palaceBobbyDarin.jpg
posted by RobertR on Jul 28, 2005 at 6:17am
Chips not only was the last roadshow at the Palace it was its penultmate film.
I wouldn't mind seeing films back at the Palace it meant displacing Magic Kingdom E ticket attractions and jukebox musicals.
posted by Vincent on Jul 28, 2005 at 6:34am
Prior to "Chips", the reissue of "Ben Hur" by MGM played at the Palace on roadshow 6/18/69 to 8/20/69. "Chips" Opened on 11/5/69 and played to 3/15/70.
posted by DennisZ on Aug 8, 2005 at 4:08pm
What was "Roadshow"?
posted by Gustavelifting on Aug 10, 2005 at 6:17pm
"Roadshow" was the terminology used when the studios opened a particular film in one theatre in larger cities. The film was presented at separate performances with reserved seating. Tickets could be purchased in advance. In many instances the films played for months to even a year or longer at this one theatre. In other threads were mentioned the "roadshow houses" of New York City. They were the Loew's Capitol and State. The Warner, Rivoli, Criterion and DeMille Theatres all located in the Times Square area. On a usual week, there was normally one evening performance and a matinee performance on Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays. Additional shows were added for holiday periods and Summer months. In most instances the roadshow films were presented in 70mm with 6 track magnetic stereo sound. Paper programs were handed out and in many cases "souveneir books" were available for purchase. Ticket prices were higher and there were different prices for the various locations in these theatre palaces - Orchestra, Loge, Balcony, etc.
That was the way to see movies! It was an event and not just a night out at the movies. Living in Lancaster, PA, my parents used to take us to center city Philadelphia to see the "roadshow films."
posted by DennisZ on Aug 12, 2005 at 5:20pm
I remember those souvenir booklets. I must have been to those roadshow pictures not knowing what they are.
posted by Gustavelifting on Aug 15, 2005 at 4:36pm
This picture of the Palace is so representative of how Broadway used to be.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/Movie%20Theatres/Palace.jpg
posted by RobertR on Oct 18, 2005 at 11:24am
The Palace Theatre both internally and externally was featured on a show on the Biography Channel.

Its a program that investigates paranormal activities with "celebrity ghosts" This time they went looking for Houdini. It was nice to see the interiors of the theatre including the bowels. But the show was quite laughable since anyone who knows anything about Houdini knows he spent most of his life trying to show these people for the frauds that they are.

posted by hdtv267 on Oct 26, 2005 at 9:17am
Going back to Gustavelifting's post in August... those souvenir booklets were not exclusive to classic "roadshow" engagements. I grew up and started going to movies after the "roadshow" era had ended and can recall being able to purchase souvenir booklets for all sorts of movies even at the local neighborhood twins and quartets. Throughout the 70's and well into the 80's I was able to purchase these booklets at the candy counters of theaters like the UA Midway, the Lynbrook, the Meadows, Century's Green Acres Theater and other cinemas. I have booklets for movies like "Moonraker", "Rocky 2", "Hair", "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and all three original "Star Wars" films.

Free programs are another matter alltogether and were probably restricted to the finest first-run theaters back in the "roadshow" heyday... but those souvenir booklets were definitely available on wide release with good regularity through, say, 1983 or 84 when they seemed to just tail off rather rapidly. I remember when I saw "Apocalypse Now!" at it's first run engagement at the Ziegfeld, the film was presented without any credits or title sequences at all and, instead, patrons were handed a bi-fold that listed the full film credits. I don't think "Apocalypse Now!" had an exclusive engagement at the Ziegfeld - at least not for long - but that was the only theater in NYC that presented the film in that way, as far as I can recall. The neighborhood showcases ran a version of the film that included the end titles sequence superimposed against the footage of nepalm explosions that you now see when the movie runs on TV (I assume the DVD presents it the same way).

Anyway, the Palace Theater presents a fine example of how developers were able to take advantage of a classic theater's air rights yet still be able to build over and around to preserve the complete interior of the theater. The Liberty Theater on 42nd Street is another example, sitting silently within the structure of the recent Hilton Hotel and awaiting completion of renovations for adaptive re-use. Too bad the Rivoli Theater just up the road from the Palace couldn't have been treated with as much respect. Or the old Strand across Duffy Square... Or the Capitol and Astor or ANY of the old palaces that once proudly anchored Times Square. Not to mention the RKO Keith's in Flushing.
posted by Ed Solero on Oct 26, 2005 at 12:05pm
Good post however I do take issue with the developer completely obliterating the wonderful New York facade and marquee of the Palace. It had all the glamour and brilliance of a New York jewel. Now it is just another generic attempting to be snazzy might as well be a theme restaurant front.
Even though I came at the depressing tail end of the roadshow era(Fiddler and Nicky and Alex) I don't remember any free programs or leaflets being handed out. Only programs for sale. Anybody out there who went often in the 50's and 60's remember free programs in the NY theaters for hardticket engagements?
posted by Vincent on Oct 27, 2005 at 4:01am
Don't get me wrong, Vincent... I take issue with it as well. We all probably would have been very sad had the developers kept the Rivoli's interior but obliterated it's colonaded facade, but better to have the theater preserved to such a large degree than to have it permanently eradicated from existence as it was. Since most Times Square facades were (or would have been by now) completely obscured by billboards, electronic signage and other forms of over-the-top advertising, I'm quite satisfied to trade off the loss of the original neo-classical limestone facade for the preservation of the Palace's gorgeously opulent interior appointments.

As for those free programs... were they like the Playbills you get at a Broadway theatrical show? Or like the programs at RCMH? Perhaps towards the end of the roadshow era, not every theater had them. Maybe only the Roxy and RCMH. Perhaps others can elaborate here?
posted by Ed Solero on Oct 27, 2005 at 4:37am
Talking about the trashing of original exteriors, didn't the Broadway Theater get the same treatment? I remember seeing Les Miserables there in 1988 and the exterior was under scaffolding. I believe the facade was completely modernized (removing all traces of character, taste and architectural merit) to fit in with the new hi-rise that was constructed above and around the theater's shell. I just took a peak at the Broadway's page and there is very little information about its architectural style. If anyone has any recollections, please add to the page: http://cinematreasures.com/theater/2250/

I might be attending a performance of the new musical The Color Purple at the Broadway in the coming months so I'll try to make some mental notes (and see if I can't grab some photos).
posted by Ed Solero on Oct 27, 2005 at 4:55am
In 1960 the Palace went legit for a few months for this engagement of Belafonte.
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posted by RobertR on Oct 30, 2005 at 12:04pm
1961 another Rock Hudson movie at the Palace, day and dating with Trans-Lux 85th Street.
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posted by RobertR on Nov 3, 2005 at 11:48am
1961 another Rock Hudson movie at the Palace, day and dating with Trans-Lux 85th Street.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/ChmnofBrd/Movie%20Ads/ReturntoPeytonPlace.jpg
posted by RobertR on Nov 3, 2005 at 11:50am
New Years 1960 "Can Can" day and dated with the Brooklyn RKO Albee
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posted by RobertR on Nov 7, 2005 at 9:52am
Check out this anti-Japanese ad from 1943
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posted by RobertR on Nov 8, 2005 at 1:09pm
Please hang up immediately!:
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posted by Warren G. Harris on Nov 14, 2005 at 5:07am
Joan Crawford at the Palace:
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posted by Warren G. Harris on Nov 18, 2005 at 5:36am
One Sunday afternoon in the mid-1980s I was walking west on 47th St and noticed that the scene door of the Palace was open-- they were loading in a TV awards show. The scene door was on the rear stage wall, near its north end. The stage door for performers was located under some fire escapes at stage-right on W. 47th St. As I stood in the alley by the scene door, I noticed a sign in large white letters painted on the wall of a building at the south end of the alley which said "Stage Door" with an arrow pointing to the right. This implies that the stage door of the Palace was originally at stage-left, not at stage-right on 47th St. as it is today. Does anyone know anything about this ??
posted by Ron Salters on Nov 29, 2005 at 8:05am
I am looking for info on Percival "Patty" Roberts, my great-grandfather, stage manager of Palace Theater in New York (not sure if Staten Island or Manhattan). I have old turn-of-century photos of him standing next to switchboard backstage which is about six feet wide by eight feet tall..., lots of "Frankenstein" switches.

He knew vaudeville stars Al Jolson, Eddie Cantor, etc. My grandmather would fill in between acts singing opera onstage as a little girl. Can you help me?

Thanks, Rennie Miller
posted by Rennie1960 on Dec 26, 2005 at 10:19pm
>>>>ALSO!

Not sure if this is the right theater, but from old photos compard to what I saw, the Palace Theater, Staten Island, New York, is in ruins, closed.

It's located on Richmond Terrace, which is a long street that runs along the north shore of the island.

Some GREAT old postcard renderings of many New York theaters and other landmarks can be found at this website:

http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?parent_id=448942&word
posted by Rennie1960 on Dec 26, 2005 at 10:20pm
EdSolero: It's been a couple of months since you asked about roadshow souvenir programs, but here's what I know about them:

They were usually about nine by twelve inches or larger, contained 32 pages or more, were printed on heavy, glossy paper, with a slightly heavier paper cover. They contained pictures of the stars, stills from the movie, behind-the-scenes photos, text about the movie, the actors, the director and producer, the composer of the score, etc. There was no advertising in them, unlike the free playbills given out at legitimate theatres. The roadshow programs were not free. I only ever bought one of them, myself, at the roadshow of the original release of Lawrence of Arabia, at the Warner Theatre in Beverly Hills. I think it cost a dollar. (My balcony ticket for a Wednesday matinee was only a dollar fifty, if I recall correctly. The booklets would have been too costly to give away, with some ticket prices being that low.)

These souvenir programs are sometimes available in the movie memorabilia section of eBay, though the sellers' photographs of them don't give a very good idea of what they are really like. I would suppose that retail shops specializing in movie memorabilia would also sometimes have them for sale, so if there is such a shop in your area, you might be able to get a close look at an example.
posted by Joe Vogel on Dec 30, 2005 at 2:19am
The first souvenir programs I purchased for "Ben Hur", "Spartacus," "How The West Was Won", and a few others, were hard bound programs. I think they cost $1 or $5! Then later they changed to glossy paper covers. I have about 20-25 in my collection from various roadshow films back in the 50's and 60's.
posted by DennisZ on Dec 31, 2005 at 9:27am
1962 Judgement at Nuremberg
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posted by RobertR on Jan 2, 2006 at 2:53pm
In Dean and Me written by Jerry Lewis the Palace is mentioned as being one of the many theatres that Martin & Lewis performed over their 10 years together. Is this the theatre?
posted by Patsy on Feb 1, 2006 at 3:33pm
Warren,did RKO have a Broadway Movie House for first run films?
posted by english on Mar 15, 2006 at 6:34pm
RKO's first Broadway cinema was the brand-new Mayfair, which it leased from its owner-builder, Walter Reade. By that time, RKO also had inherited the Palace, which was struggling to exist as a vaudeville house due to the simultaneous arrivals of talkies and the Depression. RKO finally decided to drop the Mayfair and turn the Palace into a cinema, though the bookings were usually second-run due to RKO's affiliation with Radio City Music Hall and the Center Theatre. It wasn't until the early 1940s that the RKO Palace became a first-run house, usually for the major RKO releases that, for one reason or another, didn't get shown at RCMH. By 1949, the decline of RKO Radio Pictures caused a product shortage for the Palace, so the RKO circuit tried reviving vaudeville with a first-run but usually second-grade movie. That worked for a couple of years, but then the Palace switched to two-a-day vaudeville only, with big names like Judy Garland and Danny Kaye. With the advent of reserved-seat road show movies, the Palace returned to a cinema again until transformation into a "legit" theatre.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Mar 16, 2006 at 4:03am
Topping an RKO circuit ad in 1953:
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posted by Warren G. Harris on Mar 16, 2006 at 5:45am
Now forbidden Disney at the Palace:
www.i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/dispal.jpg
For a news article about one of the movie's "live" actors, check out:
www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/story/415496p-351107c.html
posted by Warren G. Harris on May 8, 2006 at 6:41am
This unusual 1943 ad shows the Palace running day-and-date with RKO neighborhood theatres in Manhattan. "Tarazan Triumphs" was released by RKO Radio, and the first "Tarzan" to be produced since MGM dropped the series:
www.i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/rko243.jpg
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jun 27, 2006 at 12:38pm
I remember seeing Beauty and the Beast at the Palace. I had no idea it used to show movies there at one time, I thought it was always a live theater. The theater was beautiful inside, I had balcony seats for Beauty and the Beast.
posted by Bway on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:02am
Bway you must be very very young. Lucky you!
posted by Vincent on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:08am
I passed by the shuttered Palace Theatre on Tuesday afternoon, and the entrance was in a shockingly unkempt condition. I hadn't seen anything as tawdry since the closed and decaying 42nd Street grind houses. I hope that the Palace doesn't stay that way until it finds another tenant, which could be a long time from now.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:19am
It was supposed to get Mame but a production of that size seems no longer a propect on Broadway. Something big is coming in in the fall.
While we're at it I hate that they got rid of the great facade and put up a slick plastic looking front. I can't believe people are paid a ton of money to come up with these horrible new designs. Contemporary architecture not global warming will be the end of the human race.
posted by Vincent on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:25am
Wow Warren, so you were talking about the this Palace. When did the last show close there, and what show was it? This is really a shame, because this theater shouldn't be closed.
Why would it be such a long time for the Palace to find a new tenant?
posted by Bway on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:30am
The last booking at the Palace was the Elton John-Anne Rice vampire musical, "Lestat," said to be one of the worst productions in the history of the Broadway stage. Hopefully, it will never rise again anywhere, even in Las Vegas!
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jul 13, 2006 at 4:36am
I saw a few vaudeville shows in the 50s. Films seen include the sign of the pagan ugh. 4 girls in town, judgment at nuremberg, the diary of anne frank, and the judy garland concert in 1967.

I'm putting up nice movie material that relate to movie theatres including souvenir programs. check it out

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you can also visit my own website
www.cinemagebooks.com
to view more material.
posted by ij on Jul 23, 2006 at 2:38pm
Apparently, it didn't take all that long for the Elvis impersonators to crawl out of the woodwork... Here's a winter 1978 ad for one such review that had been booked into the Palace Theater a mere 5 months after The King's passing in August of 1977:
The Legend Lives - Daily News 1/25/78
posted by Ed Solero on Jul 31, 2006 at 5:01pm
Back in the late fall of 1963 on the day before Thanksgiving, the unlikely pairing of Jackie Gleason and Steve McQueen held court at the Palace while day and dating at the Paris on 58th and the RKO Albee in B'klyn.

This ad - with Hedda Hopper's endorsement - appeared a few days earlier in the 11/25/63 edition of the NY Daily News:
A Soldier in the Rain

posted by Ed Solero on Jul 31, 2006 at 5:10pm
I played harmonica in the orchestra for most of the two year run of "The Will Rogers Follies" at the Palace. 1991-93. Great Show! What a thrill that was! and what a beautiful theater! I worked with Mac Davis, Keith Carradine, Mickey Rooney,Larry Gatlin, Marla Maples. I even got to go to parties with all of them. I still play harmonica in musical theater productions througout the U.S.A. (Big River etc,) But doubt I'll ever top that! What an experience!
posted by Charlie S. on Aug 15, 2006 at 6:07pm
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posted by Charlie S. on Aug 15, 2006 at 6:13pm
If you look at many of the theatre ads in RobertR's last post. Many of the theatres advertised they were air conditioned. But the Palace's ad showed that they "Carefully air conditioned" their theatre.
posted by William on Aug 29, 2006 at 10:09am
A 1966 Times article on the renovations for Sweet Charity. Although it was only for a short time movies did again play there.
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posted by RobertR on Sep 19, 2006 at 1:09pm
The top ticket price for "Sweet Charity" was $9.50.
posted by William on Sep 19, 2006 at 1:47pm
Here is another 1966 article on the renovation from the Austin Minnesota Daily Herald:

Vaudeville Is Forever Dead
but the Palace Is Alive Again

NEW YORK —The old girl has had a fresh makeup job, and she looks lovely. Her age shows, but with the elegant manner of someone wearing
her years with dignity and grace. She sparkles, she's wearing
bright red with cream accessories and crystals, and she's getting ready to play hostess again in a manner which recalls
her years as Broadway's dowager queen.

She's the Palace Theater, that mecca of entertainment, that
vaudeville shrine where most of the greats have played (Al Jolson,
George M. Cohan and Sir Harry Lauder however, are among those who never played the Palace). The Palace is the place where, in every movie ever made about early vaudevillians, one would say to the
other, "One day we'll see our name in lights at the Palace."
The line was always accompanied by a sweeping left to right
gesture of the right arm.

THE NAME IN lights at the Palace now is Gwen Verdon's, and it's appropriate that the talented redhead, the delight of critics
and the public, should reopen the house Saturday night
in the new musical "Sweet Charity." There are still a few finishing
touches to be added to the Palace, but sitting on the plush
red seats, watching a large crew working on the newly enlarged
stage, there were moments when you felt you were watching a
piece of modern choreography.

RALPH ALSWANG, a noted Broadway designer, is in charge of the restoration. It was he who, knocking down plaster walls decorated
in a style he calls "early Ruby Keeler," discovered much of the original Palace behind the additions. "It is not an exact restoration," he said, "But we have taken the best of the Palace,
we have avoided the extravagant use of marble which would make
it look like Grand Central Station, and we have made a bouquet to the past".

THE PALACE OPENED March 24, 1913, and for about the first three months of its existence, it was a box office flop. Then "the divine" Sarah Bernhardt played an engagement there in a series of one-act plays (she was paid in gold before each performance), and the theater
was on its way. An attempt was made several years ago to revive live performances at the Palace. Judy Garland and Harry Belafonte were among those having successful engagements. But the theater reverted to grinding out movies. The last film to play there was Joseph Levine's "Harlow," leading a cynic to suggest that in addition to remodeling, it was also necessary to fumigate.

THE THEATER was purchased last August by the Nederlander
Theatrical Corp. owners of successful, elegant houses in
Chicago and Detroit. James Nederlander, a son of the head of the corporation, says the restoration of the Palace cost around
a half-million dollars. "We had to enlarge the orchestra pit from the 15 men used for vaudeville to the 32 needed
for musical theater. We tore out dressing rooms on the side of
the stage to give us more room. We had to rip out all the plumbing.
And we had to install a different system of counterweights
to handle the scenery. After all, in vaudeville they only used
flats. This is the kind of job that pyramids. We knock out one
set of pipes, only to discover they lead to another, and so on."

THERE'S ONE MAN working at the theater who has vivid memories of the Palace as it was. He is Tom Murray, nicknamed "Mr. Broadway," the
stage doorman. He played the Palace as a character singer in 1914 and 1917. For the past dozen years, Murray, in his 70s, has been working as the stage doorman at the Helen Hayes Theater, and now
he is returning home. "It's lovely to be back," he said.
posted by ken mc on Oct 28, 2006 at 5:28pm
The order form for "The Diary of Anne Frank"
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posted by RobertR on Feb 19, 2007 at 1:37pm
In November, 1949, the funeral procession of the beloved tapdancer Bill "Bojangles" Robinson made a tour of Manhattan from Harlem to Times Square, with more than one million people turning out to pay their respects. Here it passes the Palace Theatre, where Robinson was one of the top attractions during the heyday of two-a-day vaudeville. The white banner hanging on the front of the Palace's marquee says "So Long, Bill Robinson. His Dancing Feet Brought Joy to the World":
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posted by Warren G. Harris on Mar 9, 2007 at 4:33am
Will Rogers Follies ran at the Palace from May of 1991 through September '93, if that helps date the top photo. I can't recall when the building on the site of the old Castro showroom building went up - it is shown still under construction in your photo.
posted by Ed Solero on Mar 26, 2007 at 5:18pm
I can't believe how much this small part of Times Square has changed in the last 15 years.
posted by hollywood90038 on Mar 26, 2007 at 5:37pm
Forget the last 15 years, while that is no doubt true, I can't believe how much it's evcen changed in the last 5 years! Everytime you go there, if you haven't been there for a few months, it looks totally different.
posted by Bway on Mar 27, 2007 at 2:01am
I love this theater.
posted by saps on Oct 4, 2007 at 8:28am
Mark of the Gorilla with Johnny Weissmuller and eight acts of vaudeville at the RKO Palace on February 16, 1950.

posted by Lost Memory on Nov 23, 2007 at 6:59pm
I cannot find a Cinema Treasures page for the Mayfair theatre next to The Palace theatre in Times Square. I searched Mayfair and RKO Mayfair but got nothing. They appeared to be right next to each other in the picture I saw. Were they connected somehow? It did seem to have a separate marquee so the Mayfair should have its own page. What am I doing wrong?
posted by tyne on Dec 24, 2007 at 1:51am
The Mayfair is listed at CT under its later sub-divided version as Embassy 2-3-4. There are scads of postings and photos.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Dec 24, 2007 at 5:08am
Also, you can use Advanced Search and look under the former names feature.
posted by saps on Dec 24, 2007 at 8:06am
Warren and saps, thank you for your help. I only recently arrived at this terrific site, so I have much to learn. I have been to NYC several times beginning in 2001. It just kills me that I wasn't able to experience these theatres in their glory days. I know a number of the Los Angeles theatres but, pending the discovery of a time machine, I'll have to rely on the experiences available here. And that's pretty good. Thanks again.
posted by tyne on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:55pm
Happy New Year to all! After celebrating the arrival of 1954 in Times Square, you can stroll over to the RKO Palace to see eight acts of vaudeville and "The Wild One": www.i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/rko123153.jpg
posted by Warren G. Harris on Dec 31, 2007 at 6:31am
I have many memories of the Palace. I saw one of my first Broadway shows at The Palace; a performance of Man of La Mancha in the late 70's with Richard Kiley. I remember that it was a Tuesday evening and I was in high school. I was wearing a tie and was horrified that virtually every other man was wearing a jacket and tie. I have never felt more undressed than that evening.

Years later in the mid 80's I went to see La Cage Aux Folles and it was apparent that audinece dress codes were dropping. This time I was appropriately dressed in a jacket and tie. I remember seeing a couple walk in dressed in JEANS and t-shirts! I couldn't believe it. The were sitting directly in front of me in the front mezzanine. Just before the end of the first act, as the show stopper "I Am What I Am" is being sung on stage, the woman throws up in her seat! My first thought was, "well I guess that's why she wore jeans." They managed to clear out of their seats just before the lights went up for intermission. The girl I was with said to me, "I hope they clean that up before they get back." I said to her, "They're not coming back! I wouldn't come back to my seat if I just threw up into it!" Anyway, the theater staff was excellent and cleaned up the mess before the start of the second act.

No, the underdressed couple didn't come back.

How times change! Nowadays, people wear jogging outfits and flip flops on planes and are just as bad at the theater. The only night of the week that you see people dress up somewhat is on Saturday nights. However, I did go to see the god awful "Lestat" at The Palace and remember that there was some guy wearing a Tank Top (no it wasn't summer) and he was sitting in one of the boxes. No Class.
:-)


posted by LuisV on Dec 31, 2007 at 8:36am
"Tarzan Triumphs," the first of the Johnny Weissmuller series released by RKO Radio Pictures, had its NYC premiere engagement here in February, 1943. Here are highlights from Bosley Crowther's review in The New York Times: "Tarzan is a great big hunk of dumbness and strict isolationist to boot, but even he has the wit to discover that you can't do business with the Nazis in this world. That is the profound precept of 'Tarzan Triumphs.' Of course, being a fine humanitarian, it takes the ape-man quite a while to see that the Nazis who invade his jungle are there to do no one any good. But when the Germans start to kick around his youngster and take pot shots at Cheta the Chimp, then Tarzan rises up in all his fury and Nazi fur thereupon flies...There is the usual tree-top swinging, animal cut-ups and yee-owling through the woods. And as a bit of mental stimulation it is certainly no higher in the scale. It may please a lot of people to see Tarzan banging Nazis right and left. But the jest is decidedly hollow. Cheta the Chimp still has the best brain in the film." The RKO Palace presented "Tarzan Triumphs" as the top half of a double bill with 20th-Fox's "Life Begins at Eight-Thirty," which had previously played the Roxy Theatre with a stage show. When the double feature moved on to the RKO neighborhood circuit, "Life Begins at Eight-Thirty" was top billed, with "Tarzan Triumphs" in support.
posted by Warren G. Harris on May 19, 2008 at 12:09pm
The first movie and possibly the only movie I saw at the Palace was "Bedtime Story," with Marlon Brando, Shirley Jones and David Niven, in late July 1964. I still think it's a funnier movie than it was given credit for being. - Ed Blank
posted by Ed Blank on May 24, 2008 at 8:15pm
I've covered many Broadway shows at the Palace since it went legit and once had a cordial dressing-room interview with George Hearn during the run of "La Cage aux Folles."
Was there for a final preview of "Break a Leg," which promptly folded opening night. I had taken an elderly friend named Tom Bate to the Saturday matinee of the comedy starring Julie Harris and directed by Charles Nelson Reilly.
After the show, Mr. Bate, who was 80-something, asked if I'd mind waiting while he made a quick trip downstairs to the men's room. After an inordinately long wait, during which the theater had finished emptying and the staff was closing the theater until the evening performance, someone came up to the lobby and asked if I was Mr. Blank.
Mr. Bate, it turns out, has been pistol-whipped by someone who was hiding in one of the stalls after the performance. My friend bled profusely. While Mr. Bate and I waiting for an ambulance to take him to a nearby hospital, director Reilly stopped for a few minutes, and Julie Harris stayed with us until the ambulance arrived. Both were so kind to en elderly man who, though a member of the actors' union, they did not know. - Ed Blank
posted by Ed Blank on May 24, 2008 at 8:25pm
One final, memorable Palace experience:
I was scheduled to attend a Wednesday matinee of "Woman of the Year" for review purposes and to interview Lauren Bacall's co-star, the very affable Harry Guardino, immediately after the matinee. This would be time taken out of his dinner break before the evening performance.
After the matinee, I made my way to the stage door, but the press agent intercepted me with the news that Rock Hudson (Bacall's co-star in "Written on the Wind") and film producer Ross Hunter had attended that matinee, too, and had come backstage to pay courtesy calls on Bacall (first) and then Guardino.
I cooled my heels backstage, dressed in a suit and tie and holding my pocket-size tape recorder, waiting for the "all clear" sign.
I had hoped to see Hudson and Hunter leaving, but from the area backstage where I was sequestered, I did not.
Eventually the press agent reappeared and told me to take the backstage phone-booth-size elevator up to Guardino's dressing room, which was on the third or fourth floor.
I hadn't really minded the delay. The news about Hudson and Hunter being there was a little extra column fodder for me.
So I entered to the mini-elevator and pressed the appropriate button, and at the last minute a woman appeared unexpectedly, entered the elevator with me and, without a word, pressed another button.
There we were, chest to chest, and in a flash I realized it was Bacall. I spontaneously and cheerfully said, "Oh, hi." She did not make eye contact, and she did not respond. Hey - her privilege. But how much effort does it take? Guardino, on the other hand, apologized for the delay and could not have been friendlier.
Both before and later, I heard Miss Bacall could be, well, unapproachable.
Sixteen years later, almost to the day, when she was a shoo-in to win the supporting actress Oscar for "The Mirror Has Two Faces," and I don't think there was an Oscar forecast anywhere that didn't pick her, she lost the Oscar to an astonished Juliette Binoche ("The English Patient").
I've always wondered if, over the years, enough non-celebrity members of the Motion Picture Academy had had cool close encounters with the actress and if experiences mirroring my awkward elevator ride in the Palace had possibly - just possibly - caught up to her and canceled out a sure Oscar win.
But that Palace memory trumps the many more pleasant ones. - Ed Blank
posted by Ed Blank on May 24, 2008 at 9:04pm
Does anyone have the stage dimensions of this theatre?
Thanks.
posted by Ian -'adoraKiaOra on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:50pm
The 3 Stooges sharing a bill with Bogie
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posted by RobertR on Sep 3, 2008 at 3:06pm
Robert, When exactly was that? Was it a moveover engagement of "Maltese Falcon"?
posted by Ed Blank on Sep 3, 2008 at 4:14pm
I'm not sure that's an ad for this RKO Palace. There were other RKO Palaces around the USA, including Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus. This particular ad doesn't remind me of any that I've ever seen for the RKO Palace in NYC.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Sep 4, 2008 at 6:28am
"The Maltese Falcon" opened at the Strand on 3 Oct '41, with Jan Savitt and His Tophatters, plus Hi Lo Jack and the Dame (Radio's Most Unusual Rhythm Makers) on stage. WB's premier venue, the Hollywood, was showing "Sargeant York" on a long hold-over run.

The Palace in those days ran a double-feature bill that cherry-picked the two main-feature films current on the RKO nabe circuit--in this case, "Dive Bomber" (with Errol Flynn), the feature attraction at the RKO Manhattan theaters, plus "Sun Valley Seranade" (with Sonja Henie!), the feature attraction at the RKO Albee, slated to follow "Dive Bomber" onto the Manhattan screens.

Nostalgic footnote: The World Series was evidently in progress, and the RKO advertisements boasted: "World Series Returns Announced." I had almost forgotten that at that time of year in those pre-instant-newsflash days, the projectionist periodically muted the film's sound track to announce the Series (and Pennant) scores at the end of each inning. Though barely more than a toddler, I hated that desecration of the movies and consequently developed a life-long indifference to America's Favorite Passtime: who, in any case, should ever have so much time to squander on a leather ball?
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Sep 4, 2008 at 8:54am
Bill, that's further reason to believe that the ad shows a different RKO Palace...When "The Maltese Falcon" reached the RKO "nabes" in Greater New York, it had WB's "Law of the Tropics" as the supporting feature.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Sep 4, 2008 at 9:08am
Instead of "Law of the Tropics," the RKO Palace ran "Marry the Boss's Daughter" as co-feature to "The Malteste Falcon." The one-week booking opened December 3, 1941, which means it was running on the day that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and triggered the USA's entry into WW2. "Boss's Daughter," in its NYC premiere engagement at the Palace, was described by NYT critic Bosley Crowther as one of "the very worst" films of that year. Here's an ad, with the Palace sandwiched in between RKO's bookings for Manhattan/Westchester and Brooklyn/Queens:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/maltese41.jpg
posted by Warren G. Harris on Sep 4, 2008 at 9:53am
That's pure, vintage Bosley C. My guess at the bottom of the page is that the film opening at the RKO Albee that day was "Weekend in Havana," with Alice Faye and . . . Carmen Miranda! It would have been a better choice for the Palace to have followed the paradigm of "Falcon" and Bomber" by booking that film instead.
posted by BoxOfficeBill on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:04am
Yes, the booking at the RKO Albee was "Weekend in Havana," with "Man At Large" as supporting feature. That combination remained intact for the RKO neighborhood run. "Havana" had its NYC premiere engagement at the Roxy with stage show.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:28am
Following "The Maltese Falcon" & "Marry the Boss's Daughter," the Palace ran "Weekend in Havana," but with a different supporting feature than other RKO houses. Instead of "Man at Large," the Palace had the NYC premiere engagement of "Cadet Girl," which a NYT critic dismissed as "a feeble flag-waver." It should be noted that during this period, the RKO Palace was being booked similarly to the nearby Loew's Mayfair, which ran double features created for the Loew's circuit. The programs at the Mayfair, however, were a couple of weeks behind other more important Loew's theatres in Manhattan, whereas the Palace's were day-and-date (at least with the main feature) with the top RKO houses.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Sep 5, 2008 at 6:07am
Is this the same Palace Theatre that will be hosting the new Broadway stage revival of the musical "West Side Story", btw? Just curious.
posted by MPol on Oct 16, 2008 at 9:37pm
From next Feb, yes.
posted by Ian -'adoraKiaOra on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:40pm
Liza's at the Palace. December 3 thru 14th.
posted by saps on Oct 23, 2008 at 4:54pm
The RKO Palace can been seen in this 1951 photo from Life magazine. This is a new collection of photos that has been added to Google.
http://tinyurl.com/6bkf7g
posted by ken mc on Nov 19, 2008 at 1:41pm
What a team player.

posted by Lost Memory on Nov 19, 2008 at 1:42pm
Thanks, "ken mc." You might have mentioned that the focus of the photo is the sightseeing Audrey Hepburn, who had just arrived in America to make her Broadway stage debut in "Gigi." She was still a virtual unknown, and had yet to film "Roman Holiday," which turned her almost instantly into a superstar. Signage for the Embassy and Mayfair Theatres can also be seen in the background.
posted by Warren G. Harris on Nov 20, 2008 at 7:18am
Here is a 1949 photo from Life magazine.

posted by Lost Memory on Nov 23, 2008 at 5:44pm
Advanced search feature doesn't seem to be working; what is/was the Fulton Theater?
posted by saps on Nov 23, 2008 at 7:14pm
Fulton was at 210 W. 46th Street and originally theatre/nightclub called Folies-Bergere. Flopped soon after opening in 1911 and converted to playhouse called Fulton. In 1955, re-named Helen Hayes in honor of one of America's most revered actresses. Demolished in 1982, along with Astor, Victoria, Bijou and Morosco to make way for construction of a hotel. Now and then, the Fulton had a movie booking, but not for long enough to qualify it for listing as a "Cinema Treasure."
posted by Warren G. Harris on Nov 24, 2008 at 7:34am
The Palace marquee is on the left in this 1948 photo from Life Magazine:
http://tinyurl.com/5drpdk
posted by ken mc on Nov 27, 2008 at 11:43am
Thanks Ken mc for the photo. I never realized that the old Howard Johnsons was once a Childs!
posted by LuisV on Nov 29, 2008 at 6:16am
It took me a long time to spot the Palace (on the far left) because I never saw a parade march UP Broadway and my bearings were off; I guess when it was a still a two-way street, why not!
posted by saps on Nov 29, 2008 at 6:59am
Here is a 1951 photo from Life:
http://tinyurl.com/5mqnqy
posted by ken mc on Nov 29, 2008 at 4:58pm
Sorry, Ken, but that's the Globe Theatre, which was on the opposite side of Broadway. Even Life Magazine could make mistakes!
posted by Warren G. Harris on Nov 30, 2008 at 7:20am
Not Life, Warren, that was me. There was no identification on the photo.
posted by ken mc on Nov 30, 2008 at 8:49am
One of the few great movies to play its world premiere engagement at the Palace was this in 1941, presented on a reserved-seat policy with two performances daily. All tickets for the gala opening night were priced at $2.20 each (about $32 in 2009). Thereafter, weekday matinees were 75 cents, 85 cents, and $1.10. All evening performances were $1.10, $1.65, and $2.20. Matinees on Saturdays, Sundays and holidays were 85 cents, $1.10, and $1.65.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/Warrengwhiz/palace541.jpg
posted by Warren G. Harris on Jan 7, 2009 at 1:13pm
My first time at the Palace I saw Gwen Verdon in SWEET CHARITY. I also saw GOODTIME CHARLEY, the musical about Joan of Arc with Joel Grey and Ann Reinking. I also saw WOMAN OF THE YEAR, WILL ROGERS FOLLIES and AIDA. I had NO idea that the Palace had once again been used as a movie theatre following the runs of SWEET CHARITY and HENRY SWEET HENRY and before APPLAUSE opened in 1970.
One of my happiest theatre memories was attending the final preview of APPLAUSE with Bacall. That was an exciting evening for me. It was a Sunday night and there were lots of actors in attendance as Sunday night was their night off. I was on a college theatre trip and was very lucky to snag a great orchestra seat earlier that day. It must have been a house seat as the location was ideal.
Great memories at the Palace. Hope to see the new WEST SIDE STORY!
posted by jwseabough on Feb 11, 2009 at 2:54pm
Renewing link.
posted by Ed Blank on Mar 30, 2009 at 8:19pm
A night view I took of the Palace last week can be seen here.
posted by Bryan Krefft on Apr 8, 2009 at 4:43pm
That's a nice photo.
posted by ken mc on Apr 11, 2009 at 3:27pm
Well done.
posted by saps on Apr 11, 2009 at 10:30pm
Here is a 1948 photo from the Smithsonian:
http://tinyurl.com/c3gju7
posted by ken mc on May 2, 2009 at 6:14pm
Great photo, to compare to the current one.
posted by Bway on May 21, 2009 at 10:38am
Visiting the Palace was one of the highlights during my trip to NYC last week. What a gorgeous, amazing place. And the show, West Side Story, was beautifully staged. "Cool" and "Dance at the Gym" musical numbers were just stunning!

JSA
posted by JSA on Jun 21, 2009 at 12:57pm
Just found out my Great-Grandfather, Percival "Patty" Roberts was manager and electrician at Palace in Manhattan at the turn of the century!! Wow!! I have sepia photos of him at switchboard backstage.
posted by Rennie1960 on Jul 19, 2009 at 9:14pm
Seven images related to the revival of vaudeville at the RKO Palace in May, 1949, can be found here. Just keep scrolling down after connecting: http://www.vintagephotos.com/Unsigned%20Page%2020.htm
posted by Tinseltoes on Jan 11, 2010 at 11:27am
Here's the 1941 premiere of an all-time classic: http://ayearinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/citizen-kane-opens.jpg
posted by Tinseltoes on Feb 26, 2010 at 1:12pm
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