AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 with IMAX

1998 Broadway,
New York, NY 10023

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Darth_Vader444
Darth_Vader444 on October 1, 2016 at 10:23 am

I’m so excited that there finally putting in the laser projectors, and putting in comfortable seats in the Lincoln Square Imax. My family has been going there for many years. I’ve seen countless blockbusters at LS. It’s an incredible theater! However I’m super worried that the renovation won’t be complete for Rogue One on Dec 16. Last year my entire family started what we thought would be a Christmas time tradition of seeing the new Star Wars movie in the Lincoln Square Imax theater. Last year we had a blast, even though I had to settle for Imax digital (AKA Liemax). Now I find myself considering going to washington DC to see it on their full laser Imax screens, in case Lincoln Square isn’t ready in time. Can anyone give me their opinion on weather or not Lincoln Square will be open in time to pre-order tickets for Rogue One? If it’s not going to happen I have to plan a trip to D.C. it looks like. Thanks.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on September 28, 2016 at 1:40 pm

Mikeoaklandpark- Sully (and any film shot with IMAX cameras) is 2.35 in other theaters as part of the agreement for using those cameras is that the expanded image be exclusive to IMAX screens.

Also, RPX is just Regal taking the screen they already have and giving it the large format designation, there isn’t another party involved working on the projection and sound like with IMAX or Dolby Cinema (though I don’t want to hate on Regal too much, for standard screens and theater maintenance I’ve mostly liked the chain).

ridethectrain
ridethectrain on September 28, 2016 at 12:00 pm

After IMAX, take Dolby Cinema at AMC, it’s better than Regal.. Very rarely go to RPX

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on September 28, 2016 at 11:44 am

So guys I have a question, is Imax different from Regal RPX? I saw Sully in RPX because I had a free ticket. I was not impressed. The screen in 2 of the other theaters are much larger than the RPX. I remember IMAX in Ft Lauderdale and it was this huge screen that the whole film covered. What I saw was like any other theater for a film in 2.35 aspect ratio, black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. Not at all impressed.

ridethectrain
ridethectrain on September 28, 2016 at 11:28 am

Sully was excellent n imax laser. Love the 12 channels of sound. Saw it at AMC Universal in LA. Also the sound and picture great at TLC Chinese. Cant wait for Lincoln Square Imax Laser

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 28, 2016 at 11:12 am

Even without the imax, Sully did quite well at this theater and the one on 84th Street, both the highest grossing venues in the NYC area for that movie when it opened nearly three weeks ago.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 15, 2016 at 12:11 pm

Mission Impossible 5, unlike the 4th one, wasn’t shot in Imax and was an IMAX DMR remastering from the original format. How’s work going at Lincoln Square IMAX? Seems there’s fewer moviegoers there.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on September 7, 2016 at 5:47 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/IMAX/status/773304839774216192

Because the IMAX screen here is under renovation, they went ahead and installed IMAX equipment at Alice Tully Hall (which I don’t believe is listed here as it doesn’t do commercial runs of movies, but does also host many New York Film Festival showings) a few blocks away just to be able to host the Sully premiere. A similar undertaking was done previously with the Vienna Opera House to show the Mission Impossible 5 premiere in IMAX.

markp
markp on September 6, 2016 at 2:10 pm

All the 70MM equipment put in the theatres after Hateful8 was removed and put back in storage. The quick disconnect wiring was left in place. I was smart enough while at the Regal E-Walk to make a notation of the package number I ran, so if I’m lucky enough to get called again next summer, I know what to ask for. Was problem free the entire 2 weeks.

markp
markp on September 6, 2016 at 2:06 pm

digital3d, Thank You. I come from a family of union projectionists. My father was one for 55 years, my uncle for 54. I’m in my 40th this year. I only do the occasional movie now that everything is digital. It was a great run though.

hdtv267
hdtv267 on September 6, 2016 at 11:51 am

yes, people know the IMAX is under renovation.

What purpose are you trying to serve with this post other than talking to yourself.

Also if you insist on these run on sentences, have consideration for the other readers on this board and use your spacebar.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 6, 2016 at 11:46 am

There was an issue at Rockaway where the previews didn’t show up via satellite and then the movie began with 35mm projection. When 4k projection arrived, the DCI became 2k satellite (much like Imax digital but less brighter), with 4k becoming used for main features. I know that some Fathom Events such as Lawrence of Arabia were shipped on 4k drives rather than streaming to the projector for optimal sound quality. The sound quality of the Fathom Events is stereo compared to 5.1 or greater for the main feature. Very rarely they show 3d live events such as Dr. Who, which at the time was the highest grossing Fathom Event ever until the live stream of Batman The Killing Joke. I think next year AMC will renovate every other seat with recliners and make the Atmos theater an AMC Dolby Cinema location which will be the second after the AMC Empire 25. I hope they keep 70mm film for the release of Dunkirk. Sadly the only way to see Sully in IMAX will be at Empire, Kips Bay, or 34th street. Maybe they’ll show it once the renovations are done or just in time for oscar season. Sully was shot on Digital IMAX so the ratio is different and more like widescreen IMAX.

digital3d
digital3d on September 4, 2016 at 9:21 pm

Whoa, @markp; didn’t know that all the other NYC theaters had to use the back up. While I do prefer digital I do really respect your decades as a projectionist. That takes dedication!

Interesting you mention the Fathom events @moviebuff82, because I once didn’t get to see the First Look previews because something was screwed up with the satellite projection.

markp
markp on September 4, 2016 at 6:20 pm

xbs2034, perhaps you should have seen Hateful 8 at the Regal E-Walk where I ran it. Properly framed every time, no sound issues, and I was the only theatre out of the 4 in NYC that ran it that NEVER once used the digital back up. That’s what 40 years as a projectionist gets you. Just sayin.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on September 4, 2016 at 5:25 pm

Hateful Eight was incorrectly framed and then out of focus at the beginning (fixed soon after overture/openung credits sequence) and image cut out with sound still going for about 30 seconds near the end.

As for other films, I saw the typical problems of badly scratched prints, muddy images, colors changing in the middle of a scene due to print damage, etc. (these were all 35mm showings in 2012-2013 as I noticed problems with film projection becoming more frequent, and the last years I found film projection of new releases outside of very rare circumstances).

Lincoln Square IMAX installed digital in Fall 2013, so they may have had some QA system in there (the digital IMAX system was installed really fast though- they were closed for just 3 or 4 days), but the customer service team mentioned that as part of the renovation when I was there a couple weeks ago. Could be it’s a more advanced QA system designed for laser projection and the new sound system.

CF100
CF100 on September 4, 2016 at 4:56 pm

Film will degrade during a run even with proper handling and equipment maintenance.

xbs2034, what issues were there with the ‘Hateful Eight’ and other film screenings you attended?

Remote monitoring and auto-calibration is standard in an IMAX Digital installation, laser or not. The audio system calibration (IMAX nXos which uses Audyssey EQ technology) was first installed in 2010, so depending on when IMAX Digital projection was installed at Lincoln Square, might be an addition.

Also, aside from the addition of the side/overhead speakers for IMAX’s 12 channel sound system, the screen speakers and rear speakers could be upgraded to IMAX’s “Kanga” speakers if they have previous generation speakers. The screen will also need to be replaced for laser projection.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on September 4, 2016 at 2:55 pm

Cheaper prints have been getting made for twenty years due to short runs and a lack of subruns. Print quality did not deteriorate due to a lack of projectionists. The prints are just on lower quality mylar and most get destroyed soon after the first run.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on September 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm

CF100, I feel seeing a new film print properly projected is gorgeous, but those probably only happen now in special events. In regular multiplexes as you say substandard projection was not uncommon particularly as a film was shown more and got some damage, and it got worse in the last five years or so as trained film projectionists became rare so that I’d even go to the first showing on film of a movie like Hateful Eight and there were significant issues.

But while I do feel DCP is better in the everyday multiplex world, there always is a chance for error and I think one of the issues with more automated theater operations now is usually there isn’t someone there checking for problems when they occur. Which is why I think the system IMAX is putting in is promising, the screen should be properly calibrated and be getting some more oversight, even if it is done remotely.

CF100
CF100 on September 4, 2016 at 11:01 am

I’ve seen dual projector 3D setups misaligned, most noticeable as double images on the end credits and other titles. IMAX’s dual projection system requires alignment to subpixel accuracy.

Daily auto re-calibration of image and sound to restore to the original calibration is a good thing.

All screens are monitored by IMAX’s Network Operations Center in Mississauga.

In the days of 35mm, IME (outside of premier venues which retained ‘showman’ projectionists) it wasn’t uncommon for multiplexes to have substandard projection with poor film-handling, out of focus picture, and even failure to switch to the anamorphic lens for the main feature, etc.!

It would be interesting to consider comparative ‘uptime’ figures for digital vs. film projection. But whereas digital tends to be ‘all or nothing,’ film will degrade with every screening.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 4, 2016 at 10:06 am

That stinks. The thing with projectionists unlike robots is that the humans have more knowledge than the machine. What if the machine breaks down during a showing and up comes an error screen? That is the case with Fathom Events which runs off satellite.

jmcr8
jmcr8 on September 3, 2016 at 8:09 am

We have a device in [the projector] called an “image enhancer,” which is like a super computer that’s got the power of about a hundred desktop computers. This device takes the content and manipulates the data to the two projectors to insure we have a pristine image on screen. And just like how we used microphones in the theater to monitor the sound, there is an industrial camera mounted between the two projectors just inside [the theater]. It looks to the screen as your eyes. Again, it’s patent pending and nobody else in the world does this.

We are looking and what you’re looking at and it provides data back to the image enhancer, so we can constantly optimize what’s going on the screen. It all goes back to this concept of preserving quality of presentation and trying to take it a notch higher. We are really excited with this technology. It’s helping us really to take projection technology to the next level.

The image enhancing super computer is inside [a computer standing next to the projector] and it’s collecting data through the image enhancer. We are then connected, via the internet, to these devices. We can do simple things…. We are the only integrated… Sound projection, show automation, show control, are all tied together. So when an operator is having a problem, we can actually dial in. I’ve had a couple of cases where somebody will phone and say, “Well, I tried this and it didn’t work.” Here’s a guy at our end going “Well that’s not quite true. You pushed this button, then you pushed that button, then this button.”

http://www.slashfilm.com/imax-is-innovating-with-remote-theatrical-quality-control-laser-projection-and-a-commitment-to-film/

Sounds like projectionists are being made obsolete by the mothership.

hdtv267
hdtv267 on September 3, 2016 at 4:06 am

Hokey Smoke

that’s your first comment?

Quality Assurance one would presume refers to the overall presentation of the “movie” sound, picture quality, 3D, thus and so.

Congratulations on that first one, if that’s any indication- you’ll fit right in here.

jmcr8
jmcr8 on September 2, 2016 at 6:42 pm

xbs2034 on August 18, 2016 at 9:10 am “The IMAX screen is scheduled to close after this weekend, for laser and other improvements (new seats, sound system, quality assurance monitoring system). Their plan is indeed to reopen for the holiday season blockbusters provided there are no delays in construction.”

What does quality assurance monitoring system mean? Low light cameras watching the audience for any hanky panky?

poland626
poland626 on August 30, 2016 at 10:19 pm

Reserved seating is great imo, I just think that so far every theater with reserved seating has had an upgrade. Just throwing it into every theater brings expectations people have that AMC has set already with the new seats. People think they may be getting good seats like at AMC 84th street or amc west orange but they’re the same old ones

hdtv267
hdtv267 on August 30, 2016 at 3:24 pm

so what , it requires a bit of planning.

Everyone uses smart phones now a days and there’s enough kiosks in the theatre lobby of this place so people can pre-purchase.

I’d rather have reserved seats- that way if you’re running late you’ve got it. I don’t know of many people anymore who are that spontaneous that they can’t handle it that far in advance, even select standing in line for seats.

I’m a little confused by an above posters comment saying that reserved seating stinks since he seems so obsessed with it.