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We have seen the ads for the new Christamas show and I wondered if anyone working the Hall would be kind enough to tell us more about what to expect with the shows “new digital technologhy” and what if anything will be going on the the original booth
Bill I ran that picture in 70mm at the Syosset on Long Island for months and months and …. Still when we packed it on on the last night I was sad to see it go.
I am so glad you finally got to see it properly.
I recall hearing that the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood ran a new print which included the full original mix of “West Side Story” with 5-across, Todd-A0 stereo. It may have been the first time since the original release that folks got to hear it that way since about 1980.
It was Murray Spivak who went to Bobby Wise and convinced him to use the 6-track sound format; Left, Left center, Center, Right center, Right and mono Surround which was no longer being used in that fasion, with the center track carrying all the diologue. Later of course we had 4-track Left, center, right and surround with the 5 and 6 channels used for sub woofers and stereo surrounds
There is only one way to present this film on such an occassion and that is in 70mm with the original 6 track mix. Please don’t bore me with all the details of how the stage speakers are configured diffferently now or any of the other excuses just take the time to do it the way it was meant to be seen for all of who remember seeing it that way and for those who never had that experince.
Please for heaven sake can someone just do this properly in at least in a couple of locations.
I belive this was the engagement that was so sucessful an additional stage show was added to the day. In order to accomplish this Lewis personally cut “Irma” on a moviola in the booth by about 10 minutes in order to make up time to squeese in a another stage show each day. I am doing this from memory so if anyone recalls more or can correct me kindly do so.
Ed, That was “The Deadly Mantis” from 1957 but it wasn’t Graves it was Craig Stevens and William Hopper
We had a ton of those giant bug movies in the 50s.
But no, my Mantis was not quite that big :)
Big bugs alays scared me, when I lived and worked in Hawaii a giant flying roach got into the booth and terrorised me for hours.
There was a sky light in the ceilng of the Gables booth I still recall the day a giant praying mantis hovered over me all day watching me work. :)
Thanks for thjat responce New Yorker 68 I have since learned that was the case with the curtain not being used during the perfomance. I was glad to hear however that it is closed prior to the show begins and raised at the start, at least the audience is not subjectd to an open curtain befoe the show begins.
The Bayshore was 70mm capable with two Norlco 35/70 projectors in the booth.
Thanks NPoi abd garth, I too was very excited about the project as well as Peter and his partner. They managed to get most of the marquee up and running again and were waiting on a permit to light it up in the evening. And yes, if you are wondering, Peter said “ I want to bring movies back to the Paramount” I know Peter used to visit this site so Peter if you are put there please let us know more of what happened.
I am sure there may have been other contibuting factors but I belive the code updates were a big part of it. I worked on the St George and it was just one thing after another getting the fire codes up to date. It is a tribute to that wonderful family who persurvered and got the job done.
When I last spoke to Peter Lisi, who was one of the investors, he told me of the unexpected problems with getting the building back up to code and the enormous expense involved perticularly with fire codes. I believe this to be the primary reason for the end of the restoration. I offered to speak with the family that had resored the St George for assistance but he never took me up on that.
Thanks for that New Yorker64
After looking closly at the screen caps from the video I realise that all they did, as someone else noted, was build a second proscenium inside the original, I quess they thought it looked better astetically and fitted the format of the presentation better.
With shows like the one at Christmas if the curtain is not raised as high as it is for Cirgue you wont even notice the top portion of the added prosenium.
All in all I guess what they have done isn’t all that bad. You forgot to mention the curtain and if they are using it for Cirque, are they?
I would agree with you Ed, since the show will be returning it makes sense to leave the alterations in place for now. I wish somone could give us a more detailed explaniatin of what exactly was done for those of us who can not visit the theatre.
I would also like to see how the proscenium looks with the the curtain closed. By the way, does anyone know if they using the curtain at all for the current show.?
Thanks redt55 It just seems looking at the pictures that the changes to the proscenium were minor and not enough to affect the screen size but I guess looks are deceving. Any idea if Cirque du Soleil will return next summer?
I added the Cirque du Soleil photos to the photo section of RCMH
Sorry apperently I do not know how to post pictures or video what I just posted did not work proprly. perhaps someone can help with that
NY I did a review of the show and in this clip the proscenium can be seen somewhat altered. I have no apples to apples comparisons to show but the changes seem minor, perhaps I am wrong and someone moe familar with the theatre can elaberate, it has been a while since I attemded a show there. The stage has been extended out over the pit area but that is not at all unusual and has been done many times. Bases on what we can see here it would even be posssible to use the main curtain in the show.The NY 1 video shows a bit more of the processium than the You Tube video tinseltoes has kindly posted here , I have included the video of the review and made a couple of caps as well.
As to the size of the3D picture for the Christmas show it seems to me based on what you see in this video the picture does not need to be made smaller as suggested by rcd55b perhaps there is a secondary reason for the change of the picture size we may learn about later. There are changes this tear with the Rocketts 3D what ever that is and may explain the change in the screen.
It looks inicent enough from the You tube movie I just am confused by rcdt55 comment about reconfiguring the Christmas Show 3D for a smaller picture because of some of the changes. That sounds a bit scary, please to expmain rcdt55
I read the Times review and can’t for the life of me find anything regarding “auditorium modifications”
Did my tired ole eyes miss something?
Oh my plinfesty I think we are all clear on that whole Kiss Me Kate misunderstandment it was an interesting journey however mudding thru it all was it not :)
Plinfesty, I simply wanted to clarify the 3D situation at the hall I beleive I misssd the word “probably"in your post which changes what you meant, and I misunderstood it
I sute miss the days when we had someone like REndres at the hall to keep us up to date, I have asked about the modifacatios in the Hall for the current show but apperently no one knows. Guess I will have to go there and see for myself.
I also wonder how the boxoffice is doing with those very high ticket prices for that show.
Ok now ou have sparked my interest
What are these modifacations you speak off.
I certanly hope the main curtain is intact.
Thanks for that tinsetoes, has anyone attended the show
I would love to know more abouttchnical aspects of how the show works at the hall.
Howard, I would like someone else to confirm but I believe the Ziegfeld has NEC NC2500S Digital projector
Thanks Rob, your responce certainly cleared that up.
Speaking of the Christmas show 3D does anyone have info on this uocoming 3-D live show are we looking at 70mm or digital?
plinfesty, I would find it hard to beleive that REndres, who wrote the post regarding “Kiss Me Kate” at the hall, was incorrect. As I recall, and yes I was there, the Hall payed the movie in 2D. The article sounds very much what happened at the Paramount in Times Square where 3D movies were shown without intermissiion using four projectors. Would you be kind enough to read that BoxOffice article again and get back to us. If what you say is correct it can only mean that means the Boxoffice article was incorrectly written. There may have been a plan to do so at RCMH but after tests showed problems with sugnifcent light dropoff in the far left and right sides of the theatre the decision was made not to show the film in 3D
Perhaps REndrews who is without question our resident expert on all things Music Hall will jump in here and comment.
I do not belive so Howard, in editing my post it looks like I suggested that Tom wrote the projectors at the Ziegfeld were Christie.