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  Discover. Preserve. Protect.
Also known as Jensen's Raymond Theatre, Crown Theatre, Perkins Palace

Raymond Theatre

Pasadena, CA
129 North Raymond Avenue
, Pasadena, CA 91103 United States
(map)
Status: Closed
Screens: Single Screen
Style: Adam, Beaux-Arts
Function: Housing, Retail
Seats: 1996
Chain: Unknown
Architect: Cyril Bennett
Firm: Unknown
Raymond Theatre
Auditorium view of the Raymond, prior to its conversion to apartments and retail space
The Raymond Theatre has had many incarnations during it's nearly 80 years of hosting musicals, drama, comedy, dance, vaudeville, silent films, talkies, symphonic concerts and rock 'n' roll upon it's stage.

Jenson's Raymond Theatre opened on April 5, 1921 and is designed in a mix of Adam and Beaux-Arts styles both externally and internally. It was the largest theatre to be built in Pasadena and was the second theatre to be built and operated by Henry C. Jenson & Sons. They were brick manufacturers who had branched out into the movie theatre buisiness by first building the Palace Grand in Glendale. The Raymond Theatre in Pasadena was their second theatre and the third was in 1923, Jenson's Melrose Theatre on Melrose Avenue, Hollywood (now a Ukranian Culture Center). They also operated Jenson's Theatorium in Echo Park, date unknown, which is now a grocery store.

They also owned other properies including Jenson's Egyptian Cafe in Glendale and Jenson's Recreational Center, in Echo Park which is an apartment building that includes a 10-pin bowl.

Jenson's Raymond Theatre was an unusual building, as it was one of only a few 'ramped' theatres that were built. The single balcony is reached via circular ramps, rather than the usual stairs. There were two boxes with bow fronts on each side of the proscenium, which oddly face outwards towards the audience. Delicate decorations on the barrel ceiling are highlighted by troughs of upward house lighting. One delightful feature of the theatre was the fire curtain which had a wonderful painting on it, donated by the Hull Motor Company, showing one of their models of a Hull car, pictured against a backdrop of Half Dome Mountain in Yosemite Park. The projection booth had an unusual location, being at the rear of the orchestra, beneath the balcony. Jenson's Raymond Theatre was equipped with a 3 manual, 11 rank Wurlitzer theatre organ.

The Raymond Theatre opened as a vaudeville and movie house and was an immediate success. Henry Jenson and partners were often booking 6 shows per day to keep up with the demand. The Raymond Theatre was sold to the Crown Holding Corp. in 1948 and renamed Crown Theatre, becoming one of Pasadena's top movie theatres until 1963. It was then sold to Bill Barkus who presented both movies and stage shows from 1963-1970.

It was then reportedly sold to Dr. Roth, who is the father of rock musician David Lee Roth from the band Van Halen. In 1978, the theatre was then sold to Mark Perkins who was a successful Pasadena businessman. He re-opened the theatre as a multi-use venue for the arts and renamed the theatre Perkins Palace.

The theatre was operated by Gina Zamparelli and it attracted big name stars such as Phil Collins, Bruce Springstein, Tina Turner, Bryan Adams and Fleetwood Mac and many others. It was also featured in many movies such as "The Rose", "The Bodyguard", "This is Spinal Tap" and it was the backdrop of many music videos including Whitney Houston, Phil Collins, Ringo Starr and others. It was the place where Gladys Knight, Van Halen, Motley Crew and others rehearsed before major world tours. and it even had its own television show "Rock N' Roll Tonight, Live from Perkins Palace".

In 1988, theatre operator and concert promoter Gina Zamparelli formed Friends of the Raymond Theatre and she got word Mark Perkins was thinking of selling the theatre to developers Gene and Marilyn Buchanan. The Buchanan's refused to hear of retaining the theatre for live entertainment.

Gina Zamparelli spent 20-years warding off the developer and his various proposals to redevelop the theatre. Friends of the
Raymond Theatre effectively stopped the plans for the theatre becoming an office building, a modernized night-club and a hotel. Over 8,000 people from all over the world joined Friends of the Raymond Theatre to fight the developers plans.

Friends of the Raymond Theatre made 35 legitimate offers to the developer over a 20-years span, asking the Buchanan's to sell the theatre and allow it to be preserved, the owner refused all offers and continued to increase the price with each offer to keep it off the market. The current owner (and would be developer) Gene Buchanan evicted the last operators from the building and it remained shuttered for many years, in an attempt to show the theatre could not work.

The City of Pasadena, who supported the developers plans, were sued twice by the Friends of the Raymond Theatre. The lawsuits were appealed to the appellate courts. Illegal demolition started despite the City having approvals from the developers that no demolition would occur prior to final permits being issued. In the final hour, as Friends of the Raymond Theatre were awaiting the courts answer to the stay on demolition that was filed, the developer (Gene Buchanan) drove a bulldozer through the side-wall of the theatre and demolished anything possible to make sure the theatre could not be saved.

The battle to save the Raymond Theatre won numerous awards, both local and statewide, including the "President's Award" from the California Preservation Foundation's for exceptional work in the field of historic preservation.

The building has been converted into apartments and retail use.
Contributed by Steve Covault, Gina Zamparelli


YOUR COMMENTS

 
As of 1932, the Raymond Theatre was part of the Fox West Coast Theatres Chain. But by Jan. of 1933, Fox closed the house.
posted by William on Feb 18, 2003 at 12:11pm
Friends of the Raymond Theatre is looking for a buyer for the Raymond Theatre. We have a national promoter, professional management team and corporate sponsorship in place for the venue.

Our organization has been actively working to preserve the Raymond Theatre for 15 years. We are also the former operators. Our fight to preserve the Raymond Theatre is currently in Appellate court. We have one more year from March 2003 to find a buyer for the venue. If interested please contact us at: RaymondTheatre@aol.com
posted by Gina on Mar 18, 2003 at 6:26pm

The Raymond Theater was known as Jensen's Raymond Theatre, the Crown Theatre and also Perkins Palace.
posted by FriendsOfTheRaymondTheatre on Jan 16, 2004 at 9:54pm
So find one and let them help preserve this treasure!!!!
posted by RobertR on Feb 18, 2004 at 8:14am
This theater must be saved. IT is a critical part of preserving the culture of SOuthern California and America. IT is also a beautiful builidng. I hope something can be done tosave this grand movie palace.
posted by boothby on Mar 28, 2004 at 9:49am
IS there still a chance for this gorgeous theater?
posted by boothby on Mar 29, 2004 at 8:06am
I thought Mantovani died?
posted by RobertR on Apr 7, 2004 at 6:53am
It is awesome to preserve something that is part of history. If I were the owner tho, I would gut out all the bottom seats, preserve the theatre and put it back to use as a venue in Pasadena, since people are tired of playing in Hollywood and now play lots of show's at the El Rey, which has been pretty successful for the past few years. I know ton's of promotor's who would play show's at that spot, just because it's away from Hollywood, and its so conveniently next to Old town pasadena. It is really loosing money every day it is closed. The theatre could be hosting Big musical events every week if managed properly. To tear it down and turn it into a complex or apartments. Gut out the seats and start packing the place!

-ED (nccweb@speakeasy.net)
posted by Edward Bobadilla on Jun 14, 2004 at 7:06pm
"To tear it down and turn it into a complex or apartments" unfinished but ment to say, you could do that to any other property, but this is a part of history. Put it back to use and install a nice inhouse sound system, and make it all age's. It would defenitly bring alot, i mean alot of business from Hollywood, Orange County, Northridge and places like San Diego depending on the type's of events that could be hosted there!
posted by Edward Bobadilla on Jun 14, 2004 at 7:08pm
Friends of the Raymond Theatre has 7,000 supporters worldwide standing behind preservation of the Raymond Theatre. For 16-years we have worked to stop redevelopment of the theatre. Yet the City of Pasadena is allowing the developer to move forward. The theatre could be gutted as soon as July 2004. The money and affluence of this theatre owner/developer, business associations with City Council and well, you know the story. That's the true reason this theatre is slated for redevelopment. It's also the reason why 7,000 people have stood up and said "NO" to this development.

If anyone want's to join Friends of the Raymond Theatre, we send out newsletters to our supporters all over the world and give
project updates every month!

To join us, send an e-mail at: RaymondTheatre@aol.com

Friends of the Raymond Theatre
www.raymondtheatre.com
posted by FriendsOfTheRaymondTheatre on Jun 28, 2004 at 11:17pm
Gene Buchanan is a stupid idiot who, like many other stupid idiots in this time period, don't like old stuff and just want to tear it down or mess it up and make some cheap particle-board drywall mess just to make more money in the short term. Even when good quality buildings are made today they are in an ugly style (like the Disney Concert Hall). I mean wouldn't you rather look at a nice art deco or revival building like the Biltmore Hotel or Los Angeles Theatre both in Downtown Los Angeles or other buildings there or what's left of the (now mostly gutted but better than nothing) buildings of Downtown "Old" Pasadena? Or would you rather look at some ugly conglomerate of distorted geometric shapes like the Disney Concert Hall or other such buildings? Come on! What's wrong with people now?
posted by D on Jul 3, 2004 at 3:51pm
I share the same views D.
Long live preservation and historic styles you jsut don't find today.
Thats why I am going to college to become an architect, long live Art Deco!
posted by SNWEB.ORG on Aug 25, 2004 at 12:58am
Is there any news regarding this theatre? Is it still standing?
posted by ziggy on Nov 30, 2004 at 7:22am
I hope the preservationists win this theatre battle against another Developer and Owner. I've been involved with a home in Buffalo who should be saved, but the restaurant owner next door who also owns the house in question wants more parking space therefore he wants the house gone! Such a shame!
posted by Patsy on Nov 30, 2004 at 5:37pm
I checked to see where this theatre is located and being that it is in Pasadena CA surprises me. I would think that city so close to Tinseltown and the movie community wouldn't allow such a cinema treasure as this one to be destroyed or even come close to being demolished! From one who has seen it come to be with my small town cinema, don't let it happen!
posted by Patsy on Nov 30, 2004 at 5:41pm
FROM: Friends of the Raymond Theatre

If anyone would like to subcribe to our e-mail newsletters you can write us at RaymondTheatre@aol.com We have 7,000 supporters (worldwide) online with us and we would truly appreciate your support.

Thank you!

Gina Zamparelli
President, Friends of the Raymond Theatre

Office: (818) 541-9522
Website: www.raymondtheatre.com
posted by FriendsOfTheRaymondTheatre on Dec 9, 2004 at 9:00pm
Gina: Thanks for the FRT information!
posted by Patsy on Dec 10, 2004 at 2:44pm
At the end of 2004, the developer who owns the Raymond Theatre refused a $5 million dollar sale offer and instead took out a $19 million dollar construction loan to start redevelopment of the Raymond Theatre to condo's. Friends of the Raymond Theatre currently have two lawsuits in progress.

In 2005, it's going to take a lot of work and people-power to stop the City from allowing the developer to start construction. At this time we are in need of volunteers. Our volunteers are wordwide, we work online, if you can help, e-mail or call us at RaymondTheatre@aol.com or (818) 541-9522

We are also in need of donations to help do everything possible to stop redevelopment of the Raymond Theatre in early 2005.

Donations are tax-deductible and may be sent to:

Friends of the Raymond Theatre
P.O. Box 91189
Pasadena, Ca 91109-1189

To subcribe to our newsletters, write us at: RaymondTheatre@aol.com
posted by FriendsOfTheRaymondTheatre on Dec 29, 2004 at 2:24pm
PATSY: Pasadena is notorious for allowing it's theaters to vanish. Go to search and look for the number of single screen houses in Pasadena still operating. I count one and it's in South Pasadena.
posted by Manwithnoname on Dec 29, 2004 at 3:06pm
Pasadena, home to the Rose Bowl Parade but not many old theatres? I watch the parade every year come down Colorado Blvd.
posted by Patsy on Dec 29, 2004 at 8:08pm
Someone needs to sit down and talk to Gene Buchanan about his plans to reinstitute his 1987 plans to 'gut the Raymond'! Shame on you Mr. Buchanan!
posted by Patsy on Dec 29, 2004 at 8:10pm
And Pasadena isn't far from Hollywood, home to many movie studios whose movies appeared in such theatres as the Raymond so it's a natural to SAVE THE RAYMOND! They did it in Atlanta with the Fox, so it can be done in Pasadena with the Raymond!
posted by Patsy on Dec 29, 2004 at 8:12pm
Cyril Bennett, architect of the Raymond, also designed the smaller (and now demolished) Glendora Theater, and was (along with his business partner Fitch Haskell and noted Los Angeles architect George Edwin Bergstrom) the architect of the Pasadena Civic Auditorium.

In its early years, the Raymond was one of several Pasadena theaters operated by West Coast-Langley Theaters, which was one of the companies eventually combined to become Fox-West Coast Theaters.

I only attended the Raymond once, in the late 1960s, when it had long been called the Crown Theater. A unique feature of the theater is that access to the balcony level is via a pair of ramps on either side of the lobby, rather than the usual stairs.

A few years later, the Crown, operated at that time by Loew's Theaters, was showing "X" rated movies, and it closed shortly after. The entrepreneur who attempted to revive the theater as Perkins' Palace in the 1970s had little success, though I remember that a few well-known acts did play the place. By the 1980s, the theater was dark again.

The Raymond was a little bit too far out of the way, two blocks north of Colorado Boulevard, several blocks west of the center of the business district, in a neighborhood that began declining even before the depression of the 1930s. It's neighbors were mostly thrift shops, discount furniture stores, and other marginal businesses. The only advantage of its location would have been the availability of plenty of parking available on the deserted surrounding streets, had not that very emptiness frightened away many nighttime customers.

In recent years, Pasadena has taken steps to increase the residential population of this neighborhood, developing several large projects on two sides of the city park on which the Raymond faces, and encouraging the rehabilitation of older buildings to the south and west, where a lively entertainment and shopping district has emerged over the last twenty years. This is probably the best chance the Raymond has ever had to be, finally, at the center of a busy neighborhood which will attract, rather than repel, prospective theater-goers. It would be very sad if the theater were to be lost, just when the opportunity for its success is so near.




posted by Joe Vogel on Jan 14, 2005 at 6:34am
One few small corrections about the history of the Raymond Theatre as stated in the last post (see above). The Raymond Theatre was sold to in the 1970's to Bruce Barkis who operated it for plays and organ concerts for a short while.

In 1979 Mark Perkin's purchased the Raymond Theatre and converted it to a concert venue. The theatre was a MAJOR success as a concert venue. In fact, it won many Pollstar awards as the top grossing venue in Los Angeles. Some of the artists who played the Raymond Theatre during the Perkin's Palace era include Phil Collins, Bruce Springsteen, Tina Turner, Fleetwood Mac, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Van Halen and more. Every major concert promoter in the business produced shows at the Raymond Theatre. Also many movies, television shows and video's were filmed at the Raymond Theatre during this era as well. It even had it's on TV show called Rock N' Roll Tonight, Live from Perkins Palace.

The area surrounding the Raymond Theatre during the Perkin's Palace era was perfect for rock concerts, with funky punk stores and vintage shops. In 1987 the City of Pasadena commissioned a feasibility study to see what the best use would be of the Raymond Theatre, if saved. I wrote the study and was also the manager and concert promoter of the Raymond Theatre dung the Perkin's Palace era. After much evaluation, we took into consideration the changes in Old Town and felt the Raymond Theatre would be best suited as a mixed-use venue that would incorporate concerts, performing arts, meeting and conference, and film shoots. The Raymond Theatre is a much needed resource due to the lack of performance space in Pasadena. The City Council voted a mulit-use venue was the best use of the theatre in 1990.

The Perkin's Palace era lasted from 1979-1989. The theatre was sold in 1990 to a concert promoter who lost the theatre after recovering all the seats in non-fame retardant material and the fire dept. shut him down. He lost money on the shows that were booked and choose to give the theatre back to the developer. Before he purchased the theatre, everyone, including the city new he was under financed to buy the theatre. Many speculated if this sale was made by the developer to insure he would get the theatre back after renovation.

The short time the Raymond Theatre was open from 1990-1991, again it was a success, selling out all shows. The Raymond Theatre barely closed for a year or more from 1979-1990. Since then the developer who owns it has kept it closed and not allowed anyone to use the theatre for performances.

The problem with the Raymond Theatre is not a lack of buyers or product, it's the developer who owns it. He continues to refuse sales, damages his property and then calls it a hardship!

I founded Friends of the Raymond Theatre in 1987 and over the years we have stopped two prior developments and are currently working to stop the Raymond Theatre from becoming a condominium project. Friends of the Raymond Theatre has 7,000 supporters worldwide and in 2004 we won the California Preservation Foundation President's award for the our achievements in the field of historic preservation.

To contact Friends of the Raymond Theatre, or to subscribe to our newsletters:

Friends of the Raymond Theatre
P.O. Box 91189
Pasadena, Ca 91109
Office: (818) 541-9522
Website: www.raymondtheatre.com
E-mail: RaymondTheatre@aol.com
posted by FriendsOfTheRaymondTheatre on Jan 29, 2005 at 11:50am
The Raymond Theater opened on 5th April 1921 with Wallace Reid starring in "The Love Special". A seating capacity of 2,350 was given at opening in newspaper reports.

It was re-named the New Crown Theatre, opening on 13th February 1948 with Larry Parks starring in "The Swordsman" (A Columbia Picture)

posted by KenRoe on Feb 9, 2005 at 9:17pm
The architectural style of the Raymond's auditorium is quite unusual, at least in the realm of movie palaces. For example, prominent among the elements of its decor are medallions, swags, urns and finials.

Are there any architecture experts out there who know the precise term for this style? It's referred to as "Beaux-Arts" in the description above, but that doesn't seem to me to be adequate -- or even particularly correct. Wouldn't Adamesque be somewhat more accurate? I've seen the interiors of lots of movie palaces and have never seen anything resembling the Raymond!
posted by stevebob on Mar 2, 2005 at 8:41am
I support all the efforts to preserve and renovate this beautiful theatre.

A lonely theatre/cinema researcher living in Hong Kong.
posted by Suwanti on Jun 16, 2005 at 1:58am
I have gone on the Raymond Theatre website and contacted the Mayor of Pasadena and all of the City Council members via their personal emails asking them to support the preservation of the Raymond Theatre and I hope anyone reading this will do the same ASAP!
posted by Patsy on Oct 17, 2005 at 6:02pm
I did the same some weeks ago...with perhaps a little more edge than Patsy.

posted by Life's too short on Oct 20, 2005 at 3:26pm
Life's too short: Thanks for doing this as Gina and her committee are working around the clock to save this theatre built by Henry Jensen. If you haven't visited the official website, do so as it is very well done.
posted by Patsy on Oct 21, 2005 at 5:21am
This arrived in my email account today. I live many states away. But perhaps some other readers might want to attend:


RAYMOND THEATRE
Notice of a Pubic Hearing

FINAL DESIGN REVIEW

The City of Pasadena has scheduled Final Design Review for The Raymond Theatre. The City Design Commission will be reviewing the final plans to convert the Raymond Theatre
into a mixed-use housing project.

If the project passes Final Design Review, 10 days later building permits for
construction will be issued.

We ask the community and all our supporters to please attend this
important hearing and show your support.

If you would like to speak and need to know the issues, please write us over the weekend.

Hearing Information:

Date: October 24, 2005
Place: All Saints Church, Sweetland Hall
132 North Euclid Avenue
Pasadena, California 91101-1796
(Corner of Holly and Euclid near City Hall, entrance is on Euclid)
Time: 6:00 pm.
Best arrival time: 7:00 pm
For directions: Phone: (626) 796 - 1172 or (818) 541 - 9522

Friends of the Raymond Theatre
Office: (818) 541-9522
Fax: (818) 541-9523
Website: www.raymondtheatre.com
posted by Life's too short on Oct 22, 2005 at 4:54am
Life's too short: I, too, just rec'd this important notice and urge anyone who can attend this meeting to do so if they have any concerns and hopes for the future of the Raymond Theate in Pasadena California! I looked on Mapquest and the location of the meeting to the Raymond Theatre is less than a mile if anyone going to the meeting wishes to see where the Raymond Theatre is located in town. They are both close to N. Colorado Blvd. which is famous for the annual Rose Parade. The Grand Marshall this year is Sandra Day O'Connor.
posted by Patsy on Oct 22, 2005 at 8:28am
A photo by Frederick Martin:

http://helios.library.ca.gov/soca/martin/martin-6710.jpg
posted by ken mc on Nov 12, 2005 at 8:17am
Someone asked about the theatre organ in another post. I believe it was a Wurlitzer (shown in the photos) and is now stored at the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood. Let's hope the Pasadena mayor and council steps in to protect this fabulous jewell of the past!
posted by R.W. Inman on Nov 28, 2005 at 8:12am
Thanks, R.W., for the update on the organ. I believe protecting the organ is just as important as saving the theater.
posted by MikeR. on Nov 28, 2005 at 10:17am
This is a photo of the former Raymond Theater, now the Parkview Apartments.
posted by Lost Memory on Dec 12, 2005 at 1:40pm
Not quite the Parkview Apartments; the owner 'hopes' it will become them, but there is still a fight on to save the building.
posted by KenRoe on Dec 12, 2005 at 1:56pm
Good luck to those struggling to save the Raymond Theatre. It appears to be a brutal battle.

I salute you.

posted by Life's too short on Mar 2, 2006 at 8:34am
URGENT ALERT: A BUYER FOR THE 1921 HISTORIC RAYMOND THEATRE IS NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, OR IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED VERY SHORTLY. WE DO NOT WANT THIS RARE GEM TO BE DEMOLISHED. PLEASE CHECK THE HOMEPAGE FOR MORE INFO. THANK YOU!

- Michael from N.Y.
posted by NativeForestHiller on May 10, 2006 at 8:04pm
What is happening? Is the theatre still standing?

posted by Life's too short on Aug 8, 2006 at 4:02pm
Anyone????

posted by Life's too short on Oct 6, 2006 at 7:37pm
They have a website which has not been updated in eeons unfortunately.
posted by Craig Adams11 on Oct 7, 2006 at 2:39am
I saw the Raymond on New Years Eve Day 2006. The facade was draped in scaffolding and shrouded in protective netting, obscuring any details. The marquee from the Crown Theatre days was gone, leaving only a couple of steel support beams jutting beyond the netting. The concrete exterior walls on the left side were unobscured, and several rectangular holes had been cut into them. Foundation work on the new extension of the building was underway.

After witnessing the enormous battle to save the theatre (and contributing a little to it), I hope that after the construction dust is all swept away the facade will emerge restored to its original grandeur, and that there will be at least some sections of the interior incorporated into the new scheme.
posted by Gary Parks on Jan 27, 2007 at 2:42pm
The Raymond in mid-1980's and in March 2007:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33142718@N00/487651260/in/set-72157600185598484/
posted by Tahoe 61 on May 6, 2007 at 6:55pm
In 1948 Walt Disney had difficulty getting RKO to release his first True Life Adventure, "Seal Island", as RKO felt nobody would care to see a nature film. Disney arranged through a friend to screen the film at the Crown to qualify it for Oscar consideration. It premiered on December 21, 1948. It won the Oscar for Best two reel Short in 1949. It was released in the US in May 1949.
posted by Manwithnoname on Jun 9, 2007 at 1:07pm
We need to find a person or united group of persons to purchase all the condominiums and commercial space inside the Raymond Theatre so the auditorium space can be restored and the theatre reopened as a public space, owned by the person or group. Please check Raymondtheatre.com for information on purchasing the auditorium space.
posted by Timetraveler on Jul 5, 2007 at 11:28am
What a shame. Will the gorgeous Fire Curtain stay in the building? Just curious, don't need it, have our own pretty one at the Boyd.
posted by HowardBHaas on Jul 5, 2007 at 1:31pm
Any updates on this theater? Drove by it the other day and the front is still covered up. What's the state of the interior?
posted by Kram Sacul on Sep 7, 2007 at 6:11am
As far as we know, the fire curtain is still in place, with the plan of a portion of the auditorium to remain, but it will not be used as a theatre, only functioning as a common area for the condominiums. Here is the story according to the developer of the interior condominiums:
http://www.theraymondcondos.com/index1.html
posted by Timetraveler on Sep 7, 2007 at 9:03am
What a waste. Way to go, Pasadena.
posted by Kram Sacul on Sep 7, 2007 at 8:20pm
I know I'm gonna get blackballed for this, especially being friends with "Save the Raymond Theatre" and all, but here goes:

I just took a look at the website... they have apparently turned the thing into condos but kept the exterior look and, they say, the interior walls/ceiling of the main auditorium. I haven't visited to see it in person, so I'm not sure how much of this is true.

One thing I WILL say... after seeing so many pages of theatres all over the place that have been torn down in the last 10 years for whatever stupid reason, I think this is one of the least stupid things they could have done, though it is still a measley 2nd or 3rd place to turning it back into a performing arts center or theatre or whatever.

See, public or no public, California, especially Southern CA, is a driving culture, whether we like it or not (I don't, but I have to put up with it every day). People are used to driving long distances to go see things they want to. People routinely drive from LA County to Orange County and back, for example. What I am trying to say is that with other historic, restored live performance venues in the area like the Pasadena Civic Auditorium, the average theatre-going and/or old or art-house-movie-going public doesn't see the need for what they perceive as merely "another one" to fill what is admittedly somewhat of a niche market (not so much the live performances, but the movies in general; look at what has happened with regular theatres... many people now watch DVDs on their HDTV and rarely go to the movies except on dates.)

Now let me be the first one to say that I know the Raymond is not just "another one" [theatre], and that it is unique and has a lot of history behind it. However, of course, you, me, and the rest of us would only be preaching to the choir if it wasn't for internet search engines. And, this still isn't really going to change the opinion of the average theatre-goer who might decide to see a silent movie or whatever, since they figure, rather correctly, that they can just drive the 45+ minutes on the freeway (in good traffic) to the Orpheum or whatever to go see it. [or for rock bands, the El Rey]

So let me be the first one to say, hey, it's too bad they did this to this great theatre, but look at how much WORSE it could have been! They could have knocked down the whole thing and reduced it to rubble right away, while instead they are keeping the building and at least part of the auditorium, and instead of letting it lapse into some leaky dump at least the shell will be restored and made weather-worthy to hold their pet project on the inside.

I don't know what has happened to the interior goodies, but I hope that enough of you rallied together to save them and keep them in one place (or at least accounted for) for possible future re-installation.

---

Look, see, it's not like I can't totally relate; after constanty seeing and hearing about antique upright pianos (player and otherwise) going to the dump these days, and then seeing certain unnamed northern CA companies turn them into new "orchestrions" with plastic parts, yet cutting out the original solid panels of the piano to put in art glass, etc. it's like saying, "well, which is the lesser of the two evils?" Do we want the piano chopped up and hauled to the dump, where it was headed anyway?

Or do we want it fixed up a little bit, and even if the originality is messed with, it at least preserves it for a few more years until the right person comes along who says "say, I would really like one of those antique upright pianos. They seem mighty scarce nowadays" so they buy a XXXXXXX brand "orchestrion" piano, which collectors malign as being non-original and musically inferior to an original antique orchestrion (true); but yet this conversion has saved the piano itself from the dump, and the happy pianist can now strip out all of that plastic crap and restore the piano back to what it was, a fine musical instrument which "they don't make 'em like they used to!"

---

I'm not saying we all go lax and relax our grip; sure, if you really want to see this theatre as a theatre again, then go battle it out with the owners and whoever else is doing the commercial work. And may you win.

However, even if you don't, keep on with the condo people. Don't just give up, at least try to work together with them so this conversion thing is really as historically painless to the building and decorations as possible, so at whatever future date when the apartments are no longer financially viable, they can be yanked out of there and the theatre restored back to its original grandeur and purpose.

There can be a silver lining in this thing if you look at it in the right way.

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Here's another thing: just how many theatres get local support rallied around them, restored, and then after a gala opening struggle to make a profit after just a few months, because interest in the theatre has waned and the people who supported it think "mission accomplished" and don't really go see shows at the restored theatre? I think that if you help out on a theatre project, and you REALLY CARE about it, and are not just BSing, then you should SUPPORT that theatre by going to see shows and things at it REGULARLY and telling your friends! Even if it's far away from where you live. Remember, supporting a theatre isn't just restoration; it's a continuous, ongoing, day-to-day thing.

For example, Old Town Music Hall is fairly far away from me, and yet I have made the drive there several times, not just because it is a great place and shows movies and hosts live musical acts etc. some of which you can't see anywhere else, but mainly because I like to SUPPORT the theatre by GOING there so they can at least scrape along and make ends meet. They haven't been doing too well lately, financially (or so I heard a couple months ago), but let me tell you: "IT AIN'T BECAUSE OF ME!!!" In fact, I'm planning on going back to see a movie or something in at least a week or two... and I know it will be worth it!

posted by andrewb on Mar 11, 2008 at 4:30am
A few photographs:
Exterior in 2004, its fate was decided (before the building was covered in scaffold and sheeting):
http://flickr.com/photos/blacksage69/2066200143/
http://flickr.com/photos/blacksage69/2066997724/
Conversion begins - July 2006:
http://flickr.com/photos/rivet/281020224/
Say goodbye - last view of the auditorium:
http://flickr.com/photos/62776949@N00/257054178/
New construction on the former stage - July 2006:
http://flickr.com/photos/hereinvannuys/973645167/
A set of views of the new construction and past fragments - August 2006 (click back in photostream)
http://flickr.com/photos/echo_29/226646730/

posted by KenRoe on Mar 12, 2008 at 10:10am
A night view of Perkins Palace in 1982:
http://flickr.com/photos/rivet/1477198191/
posted by KenRoe on Mar 12, 2008 at 10:21am
Here is a view of the curtain, probably taken mid 70s:
http://tinyurl.com/3xem62
posted by ken mc on Mar 16, 2008 at 9:53pm
Heh! The asbestos curtain was decorated with a painted curtain!
posted by Joe Vogel on Mar 16, 2008 at 11:55pm
Here are two photos from the LAPL, circa 1921:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015680.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015681.jpg
posted by ken mc on Apr 12, 2008 at 12:22am
Thank you, "ken mc", for the incredible photos, especially the interior. My second "date" was there ("Crown Theatre" in 1956).
posted by Tahoe 61 on May 2, 2008 at 7:31pm
P.S. -- interesting that your posting of Apr 5 is 87 years to the date since it opened!
posted by Tahoe 61 on May 2, 2008 at 7:40pm
I think the function change to housing/retail is a little premature, as they haven't finished the renovation yet.
posted by ken mc on Aug 16, 2008 at 1:22pm
Here is a July 1958 ad from the Pasadena Independent:
http://tinyurl.com/54hql8
posted by ken mc on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:46pm
What a travesty we lost this theatre :(
posted by RobertR on Sep 22, 2008 at 5:43am
Crime in July 1925, from the LA Times:

PASADENA, July 27-Confessions signed by Roy Courser and Frank Williams, burglar alarm experts, charged with robbing the Raymond Theater of $800, revealed exactly how the daring job was completed. Courser attended the the last show of the theater on the night it was robbed. He succeeded in hiding himself in the theater until after all the patrons and employees had left.

His pal, Williams, was then admitted through the front door and the pair spent the remainder of the night breaking open the huge theater safe which held the ticket sales of the day.

Courser and Williams are the electricians who installed the burglar alarm system in the Raymond Theater more than a year ago. Their technical knowledge of the system afforded them protection, for although they wandered all over the building and broke the stong box open with a crowbar, not once did the alarm sound.

Both prisoners deny they are the ones who robbed the Star-News newspaper office safe the week previous.
posted by ken mc on Nov 13, 2008 at 3:15pm
Here is part of an LA Times article dated 10/21/90:

The Raymond Theatre-which has been dark and neglected since January-now rings with the sound of workers' hammers, drills and saws. Sunlight streams through doors thrown wide open and portable spotlights shine everywhere. The 69-year-old historical structure is being reborn.Under new owner Gary Folgner, crews have been working for the past three months, frantically readying the building for a Nov. 16 reopening concert. The frenzied work fulfills a 2-year-old city dream: preservation of the onetime vaudeville house and former movie theater as a premier entertainment venue in Pasadena.

"Everything has come together," said Claire Bogaard, executive director of Pasadena Heritage, an activist preservation group. "We're just thrilled." Bogaard said some in Pasadena had feared that Folgner would slap a coat of paint on the Raymond and quickly start booking the rock, country and pop acts that perform at his other two clubs. Folgner is owner of the Coach House nightclub in San Juan Capistrano and the Ventura Theatre in Ventura. Instead, Folgner "seems to be very serious and very serious about doing it right," Bogaard said of the preservation work. "He's going to put the windows back, the original marquee back and the original marquee ceiling." Ed Razor, Folgner's project manager for the theater, estimated the restoration will cost $1.5 million. It will continue after the theater opens, perhaps taking years to complete.

It includes uncovering three front windows plastered over years ago and dismantling the late-1940s marquee to uncover the still-intact 1921 marquee. Construction of a three-story commercial building on the parking lot next door also is planned, but that, like the major restoration work, is months away. For now, Folgner wants to replicate the original, classic beaux-arts style of the interior and begin booking concerts and renting the hall. Professional groups, such as ballet companies and other performance groups, could use the Raymond when they can't obtain dates at the Civic Auditorium, can't fill the Ambassador Auditorium and don't want to use the area's college auditoriums, Razor said. "This is the only real hall available for rent in Pasadena," he said. "It's an elegant setting. The hall fills a huge gap."

Designed by J. Cyril Bennett, architect of Pasadena's Civic Auditorium and scores of buildings along Colorado Boulevard, the 1,800-seat Raymond opened in 1921 as a vaudeville house. In the 1930s, it was converted to a movie theater. In 1948, it was remodeled as the Crown Theater and lost many of its beaux-arts architectural features to modernization. Marc Perkins bought the Raymond in 1978 and dubbed it Perkins Palace. Top-name pop acts like Roberta Flack and Air Supply played there, followed later by heavy-metal rock bands.

After it closed four years ago, the Raymond became a hulking money loser with a leaky roof and pigeons in the rafters. In January, vandals broke in and tore out all of the building's copper electrical wiring. Perkins soured on concert producing and, with partner Gene Buchanan, sought to convert the Raymond to office space. But preservationists rallied and city officials persuaded Perkins and Buchanan to delay their plans while a $29,800 economic study was completed on the theater. The study paid off when Folgner, a buyer willing to pay the reported $2.8-million asking price and keep the Raymond operating as a theater, was found. Before escrow closed on the purchase, Folgner sent crews to begin work: patching holes in the floor, putting new upholstery on the seats, installing missing wiring and replastering and repainting the walls.

"Once you spend a lot of time in here, you fall in with it," Razor said. "This is a place where magic happens. It may not look like it now, but it will happen."
posted by ken mc on Jan 23, 2009 at 7:33pm
Here it is, in its Perkins Palace days: http://www.theshambles.net/Image_Pages/Jam.htm

posted by Michael Page on Feb 27, 2009 at 4:40am
1983 Photo

posted by Lost Memory on Apr 26, 2009 at 12:57pm
Here is a June 1960 ad from the Pasadena Independent:
http://tinyurl.com/qqfpxk
posted by ken mc on May 12, 2009 at 10:07pm
Here is a January 1974 ad from the LA Times:
http://tinyurl.com/l4f7rf
posted by ken mc on Jul 20, 2009 at 9:58pm
Do they only carry porn ads?

posted by Lost Memory on Jul 21, 2009 at 4:08am
Here are some photos taken today. The plaque refers to the alley behind the theater.
http://tinyurl.com/ohwfoj
http://tinyurl.com/pw9gqn
http://tinyurl.com/qvb76z
http://tinyurl.com/qubcvl
http://tinyurl.com/qrxw59
posted by ken mc on Aug 16, 2009 at 8:53pm
The 1940 remodeling after which the Raymond Theatre became the Crown Theatre was featured in Boxoffice Magazine, May 22, 1948. There are small before and after photos of the lobby and auditorium, though the scan is a bit fuzzy.
posted by Joe Vogel on Dec 12, 2009 at 12:56am
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