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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jul 28, 2014 at 1:01 pm

Hello-

I was thinking about all the roadshow engagements this theater hosted in the prime Oct. 1955 to Dec. 1972 period. one in particular came to mind “Cast A Giant Shadow” released by United Artists and starring Kirk Douglas which opened here the Spring of 1966.

to which my question- of all the films which played this theater on a roadshow engagement CAGS is the only one I have never seen on home video vhs let alone dvd or blu-ray. I have always wanted to see the film to judge it for myself. could there be some legal hold up as to why its never been out on any home video format.

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bigjoe59 commented about Ziegfeld Theatre on Jul 28, 2014 at 12:50 pm

to CConnolly1-

like you I always like going to the Ziegfeld for the quality of the projection and sound. plus like you I am surprised the theater is still in operation. the overhead most be sizable. I’m guessing the reason the theater is still open as a 1st run venue is that Bow Tie Cinemas would have a revolt on their hands if it was twinned, demolished or converted to other use.

also no matter how well reviewed a film is and no matter how popular the film might be with the public there’s a very simple reason why the Ziegfeld is rarely if ever at capacity. any film it shows is also playing at probably 12 other theaters in Manhattan.

and might I be so bold as to ask you a question- you are not the first person to refer to the Ziegfeld via “its location is well off the beaten track”. how is a theater on 54th St. off 6th Ave. off the beaten track?

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bigjoe59 commented about AMC announces massive reseating project on Jul 17, 2014 at 11:19 am

i live in NYC and the price for first run films is already WAY TO EXPENSIVE. so like 3-D this is simply a way to soak more $$$ out of the audience. this is especially true since at the Bway & 84 St. multiplex you’re forced to pay for a “reserved seat” even if there’s only 10 people in the theater.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jul 7, 2014 at 4:37 pm

Hello to my fellow posters-

there are a number of roadshow engagements that had souvenir programs but I do not have in my collection. hence my question. other than EBay does anyone know of a website that sells movie memorabilia? of the handful of sites selling movie memorabilia that I’ve seen the only programs listed are the ones I already have.

I recently read “Movie Roadshows” by Kim Rolston and I was amazed at the number of such films that had souvenir programs I have never come across. any help would be appreciated.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jul 6, 2014 at 1:26 pm

to techman 707-

the not sending out of messages noting someone has responded to a comment is happening again. I did not receive a note in my inbox that my entry on souvenir programs had been replied to by you..

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jul 1, 2014 at 2:16 pm

to Ed S.–

the prime roadshow era was from the Oct. 1955 opening of Oklahoma to the Dec. 1972 opening of Man of La Mancha after which the studios discontinued the policy. I have 137 souvenir programs in my collection. I have to admit a dozen or so of that number are not actual souvenir programs sold in the theater lobby but fancy brochures the studio released to publicize the film.

of the 125 souvenir programs in my collection
13 are hardcover.other than the hardcovers in my collection the only other one I know of is for Porgy and Bess which played the Warner.

of the 13 I own two are from films which opened when this theater was the Demille a prime roadshow house. namely Spartacus and Hawaii.

the other 11 are-

The Alamo Around the World in 80 Days Ben-Hur(1959) El Cid The Greatest Story Ever Told How The West Was Won King of Kings(1961) Mutiny on the Bounty(1962) My Fair Lady South Pacific The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm

a bit of info on just how elaborate these hardcover programs could get. both the Ben-Hur and Spartacus programs had a fold out with several watercolor paintings of scenes from the film. and to top that the King of Kings program included a sealed package of 8x10 color photo portraits of the main actors in the film.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 30, 2014 at 5:26 pm

to William-

thanks for the info. as you state the 179min. cut was just used in previews and was cut to 158mins. for the premiere roadshow runs like the one at the Capitol. so however long the film’s roadshow run was at the Capitol the Dodge City sequence was intact the entire run and was only cut for the general release prints which went to neighborhood theaters around NYC.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jun 30, 2014 at 5:16 pm

to techman 707-

I asked around so to speak and Cheyenne Autumn’s premiere engagement at the Loew’s Capitol was a traditional roadshow engagement with 2 shows during the week and 3 on the weekend. unfortunately it didn’t have a healthy or long run. still since it was a traditional premiere roadshow engagement I just can’t imagine it not having a souvenir program regardless of the length of said engagement.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm

Hello-

a further question about Cheyenne Autumn. was the engagement of the film which opened Dec. 1964 a traditional 2 shows during the week and 3 on the weekend roadshow engagement?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:40 am

to techman 707-

thanks for your reply about roadshow engagements having souvenir programs. the reason I ask is simple. I have approx. 135 souvenir programs in my collection starting with the one for the 1925 silent version of Ben-Hur. most I bought at the theater when I saw the film others at memorabilia shops in Manhattan and L.A..to which with all the memorabilia shops I’ve been too and all the online sites selling such stuff I have never come across souvenir programs for such prominent roadshow engagements as The Diary of Anne Frank(RKO Palace),Cheyenne Autumn (Loew’s Capitol)and Gigi which played the Royal which was normally a legit theater. these are just a few of the prominent roadshow engagements in the 17 year period mentioned for which I have never come across a souvenir program. so I wondered if quite possibly they didn’t have one hence my question.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Jun 26, 2014 at 4:08 pm

Hello-

my fellow posters have always been most kind in answering my questions. this time I have a good one on a subject that I find interesting.the prime roadshow period was the Oct. 1955 opening of “Oklahoma” at the Rivoli thru the Dec.1972 opening of “The Man of La Mancha” also at the Rivoli. now in this a bit over 17 year period the studios heavily used 7 Times Square theaters for their roadshow engagements(Criterion, Loew’s State, RKO Palace,Demille,Warner, Rivoli and the Loew’s Capitol). which is where my question comes in. Regardless of how good a film turned out to be if a film played at one of these 7 theaters it can be classified as a prominent release. so can anyone think of a prominent roadshow engagement at any of the 7 theaters named above that did not have a souvenir program? every roadshow engagement I ever went to had a souvenir program so I can’t imagine a prominent roadshow run not having one.

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bigjoe59 commented about AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 with IMAX on Jun 22, 2014 at 12:42 pm

Hello-

I can’t stand the reclining seats the 84th multiplex has. for one if you a big person and I don’t mean overweight just big your leg is constantly pressing up against the button with opens the chair. its almost impossible if you are a big person to just sit in the chair in a regular fashion comfortably.

also the pricing at 84th St. is highway robbery. ticket prices for 1st run theaters in Manhattan are already to high. yet the 84 St. forces you to pay more for a “reserved seat” even if there are only 5 people in the theater.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 20, 2014 at 1:39 pm

Hello-

thanks for the info on Cheyenne Autumn. another question. from when i went with my parents to when i started going by myself one thing i always liked about reserved seat engagements was buying the souvenir program in the lobby during intermission. i have approx. 135 in my collection most of which i bought at theaters. others were purchased in memorabilia stores. which is where my question comes in. did Cheyenne Autumn have a souvenir program? i can’t imagine a big epic like CA with a big director and big stars released on a reserved seat engagement not having a souvenir program. yet in all memorabilia stores i have been to and all the online memorabilia sites i have looked at i have never seen one. in fact there are a few others big even award winning reserved seat films i have never come across a souvenir program for. i always thought roadshow engagements and souvenir programs were inseparable like peanut butter and jelly.

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bigjoe59 commented about Strand Theatre on Jun 16, 2014 at 5:50 pm

to William-

thanks for the info. just to be sure another question or two. i assume Stevens longest cut at 4 hrs. 20 mins. like Mankiewicz’s 5 hr. 20 min. cut of Cleopatra was never theatrically shown . now was the 238 min. cut you refer to used just
for the World Premiere night screening or was it used for the entire roadshow run the Warner. in other words how long was the 238min. cut used at the Warner and at what point did they switch to the 3hr. 19 min. cut used on the blu-ray. i am wondering if the premiere 238min cut actually shows Sal Mineo’s being killed. to have him walking in the crowd at the Temple than the next time you see him he’s dead lying on the altar steps you just know something was cut.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 16, 2014 at 2:31 pm

to AL A-

you are always quite helpful with my questions. to which could you please go to the Strand/Warner Cinerama page and see if with your font of knowledge you can answer my question about The Greatest Story Ever Told which opened at that theater Feb. of 1965. thank you.:–)

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bigjoe59 commented about Strand Theatre on Jun 15, 2014 at 5:24 pm

Hello-

i recently bought the blu-ray disc of The Greatest Story Ever Told. the running time of the disc is 3 hrs. 19 mins.. which is where my question comes in. the liner
notes on the back cover say-“restored to its theatrical brilliance with Overture and Intermission”. now i saw TGSET twice during its Cinerama reserved seat engagement but can’t remember what the running time was. now i recently found out the original running time of the roadshow run print was 3 hrs. 45 mins. but did the Warner Cinerama ever play that print or did it only play the 3 hr. 19 min. print?

a case in point. there’s the scene towards the end where Jesus is talking at night time to a large crows at the Temple. you see Roman soldiers pushing in then it switches to another scene. the next time see Jesus he’s entering the house where the Last Supper takes place. but then there’s a quick cut back to the Temple we see are a few dead bodies scattered around including the young former cripple (Sal Mineo)lying across the altar steps. what happened to the scene of the Roman soldiers aggressively dispursing the crowd resulting in the dead bodies we see?

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm

Hello-

thanks to William for the tech info. a additional question. I don’t know what the dimensions of the screen was when How The West Was Won played here starting April 1963. to which my question- when Cheyenne Autumn opened here Dec. 1964 how much of the screen that the HTWWW projection covered was covered by CA projection?

also I wanted to ask a question about The Greatest Story Ever Told so anyone who is knowledgeable about the Warner Cinerama please take a look at that page. thank you.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on Jun 13, 2014 at 5:54 pm

Hello-

its nice to know the sending of messages has returned. i guess the disruption will remain a mystery.

now a few weeks back i mentioned i was 99% sure that Cheyenne Autumn which opened here Dec.1964 was a single lens Cinerama film or as the ads would said- “presented in Cinerama”. i had no newspaper ads or mail order forms to back my 99% certainty. now my fellow posters have stated in reply that this was not the case. so trying to figure a reason for my 99% certainty maybe i read an ad that said something like “see it on the giant Cinerama screen” since the Cinerama was still up maybe they figured lets use it as a selling point.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on May 29, 2014 at 12:34 pm

Hello-

Opps I forgot to add an interesting note.for about a month now I have not received any messages in my inbox that theaters in Manhattan that I am on the list for have received new comments. these notes on Cheyenne Autumn being an example. I only realized they were posted because I looked this page up.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on May 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm

to Peter A.–

thanks for the info. one’s memory does play tricks on you and I guess this is an instance. I don’t know why I thought this. its just i swear I can
remember seeing an ad in a NYC newspaper at the time of its opening. oh,well.

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bigjoe59 commented about Capitol Theatre on May 2, 2014 at 5:17 pm

Hello-

i hope my fellow fans of the late but great Loew’s Capitol/Cinerama can answer a question. John Ford’s “Cheyenne Autumn” opened the fall of 1964 on a reserved seat engagement. this is where my question comes in. i wouldn’t bet my next paycheck but i am 99% certain that the film was one of the 10 or so single lens Cinerama films. now i can find no newspaper ads or copies of the mail order form and like stuff online to bolster my claim. so was “Cheyenne Autumn” one of the 10 or so films presented “in Cinerama” or not? again i’m 99% certain it was.

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bigjoe59 commented about Royal Theatre on Apr 20, 2014 at 1:44 pm

to Ed S.–

i’m guessing the pic above is fairly new since the building was torn rather recently.

a few questions.

1.while the building was standing for almost 100 years it hadn’t been a movie theater for decades. so what would you say is the longest lived movie theater built as such and operated as such? my guess would be the Bunny at Bway & 145 St.. it opened Dec. 1913 and closed the fall of 2010? the runner up i’m guessing would be the Coliseum at Bway & 181 St, which opened in 1920 and closed at the fall of 2012.

2.in the listing of comments for this theater is one that states a rare photo of the fa├žade can be found on nyc.org. I tried finding it but zippo. I can’t help but wonder if its the same photo in the issue of Motion Picture News from the beginning of 1918.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 17, 2014 at 10:09 am

to Mike-

I watched the re-mastered blu-ray disc released last year by Kino Video. the visual/audio quality was fine. its just I was quite surprised by how much of a B movie look and feel it had both technically and artistically.

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bigjoe59 commented about Nob Hill Adult Theatre on Apr 15, 2014 at 12:51 pm

the 1st time i visited San Francisco was 1980 and the last time was 8? years ago. my point being simple. in the early years they hosted many different types of gay porn stars. boy next door types, Abecrombie & Fitch model types as well studly masculine types. yet in the 8 years since my last visit the only gay porn stars they seem to host are studly masculine types. what gives? isn’t variety the spice of life?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 15, 2014 at 10:46 am

to Ed S.–

thanks for your take on the subject. during the often pined for Golden Age of Hollywood I was always under the impression there was a distinct look and feel too an A film that would be different from that of a B film. so that’s why I’m kind of shocked BOP would have been classified as an A film when it opened at the Mayfair considering its very B film production values.