to moviebuff82- thank you for your reply. I can see the
thought you expressed as valid for some small film no had
ever heard of. but for a big studio film on the opening
weekend is highly surprising.
I go to the 19tht St. a good deal and until rather recently
they had 10a.m., 10:30a.m. or 11:00 etc….. for any big
release on its opening weekend. so I’ve been surprised by
the rather late first screening of the day for a number of
such films.
I thought Russell did a rather nice job. but like Hepburn
she couldn’t hit the high notes well so her vocals were
enhanced by Kirk who assisted with the high notes.
to digital3d- I wouldn’t mind seeing GM in the Dolby Theater but without 3D. 3D is just a way of squeezing more $$$ out of moviegoers. it fact 3D does nothing for 99% of the films show that way.
a question for people knowledgeable with projection. what
was the point of Ang Lee shooting the film the way he did
if no theater can in fact show it that way?
it s kind of like his last film Billy Lynn’s Long Half Time
Walk. without the high frame rate projection there was
nothing special about it. it was just a average film about
a young man adjusting to home life after returning from war.
to vindanpar- I had a feeling she had to have known. on the
50th Anniversary blu-ray disc they included Wouldn’t It Be
Lovely and Show Me as Hepburn shot them. even better is on the
soundtrack cd they should have included the songs as she
shot them as a bonus. a few years ago they released a nicely
remastered cd of the Gypsy soundtrack album. what made it
special was simple- in addition to including all the
soundtrack LP tracks they also included as a bonus all of
Russell’s song as she shot them before her vocal’s were
enhanced by Lisa Kirk I think it was.
apparently very few theaters in the entire U.S. can show
Gemini Man exactly the way Ang Lee shot it? but apparently
some theaters will come damn close. which auditorium in
this theater will show the film as close as possible to the
way Ang Lee shot it?
i should have said the reprise of Just You Wait as
Eliza is kneeling front of the fireplace looking for
the ring is all Hepburn but that the original rendition
of the song was mostly Hepburn with an assist from Nixon.
also I have heard as well that till the premiere of MFL
at this theater that Hepburn had no idea her vocals had
almost totally been replaced. is it really possible she
had no idea whatsoever?
I saw Joker at the Valencia auditorium this past Sat. 10/5.
I thought it ties with Suicide Squad as the worst, most
lackluster most disappointing comic book derived film ever.
I can’t be the only one with this reaction.
to Mike(saps)– as they say beauty is in the eye of the
beholder isn't it?
to vindanpar- a year or so before the Katz/Harris
restoration of MFL i bought an A+ cd
that was imported from Holland. it contains
the same tracks as on the soundtrack
released by Columbia Records when the
film first opened. it doesn't contain
any of the extraneous noise etc... that's
on the expanded cd issued with the Katz/
Harris restoration.
to Al A.– if I am not mistaken Marni Nixon did not
do all of Eliza's singing in MFL. i can
swear i read a few years ago the Just You
Wait number is Hepburn as is the reprise
of the song after Eliza and Higgins have
their big fight after they get home from
the ball.
I happen to like Dr. Dolittle and saw it twice during its
roadshow run at the Loews State. the still available Twilight
Time Blu-ray disc in terms of richness of colors and the
crispness, sharpness and clarity of both the picture image
the multi-channel is everything a Blu-ray disc should be.
talk about a film being edited just before its premiere.
aside form the image of Harrison riding on the giraffe
on the cover of the soundtrack album the booklet enclosed
has a description of a Prologue sequence that doesn’t
appear on the Blu-ray. also the souvenir program sold in the lobby of the State has a description of Harrison singing
a song about Emma(Samantha Eggar)at the end of the film
that doesn’t appear on the Blu-ray disc either.
fortunately an A+ 2 disc cd set was released last year of ALL the music recorded for the film.
to Mikeoaklandpark- I saw The Rose three times during its
70MM exclusive engagement at the Ziegfeld. so I can imagine
your horror when you took your friend to see it in one of
the lower level auditoriums here. its kind of like who in
God’s name would want to watch Lawrence of Arabia on an
iPad or tablet?
to Al A. thanks as always for your info filled
replies. be that as it may I’m sure they had a number
of other lobby cards they could have used. I don’t
know how much before Nicholas and Alexandra opened
that the staff at this theater did up the display
cases to either side as you entered. but to include
a photo of a scene they most have known wasn’t in the
film while it may not meet the legal definition of
false advertising was certainly a really odd thing
to do.
I thank you for your reply. its just I would say roadshow
engagements where a film played at only 1 theater in all of
NYC for weeks, months or in many cases well over a year is
a somewhat different case. the only thing I can think of
is this- I think the film is just about perfect as is but
the big wigs at Columbia may have said “hey at 3hrs. 9mins.
it s long enough” so at the last minute they cut out any
scenes not pertaining to the title characters. so I’m
assuming the posters, lobby cards etc…. were shipped out
even before the final cut was arrived at.
Nicholas and Alexandra opened at this theater Dec. 0f 1971.
its one of my favorite large scale historical dramas. its also
this theater’s last roadshow engagement. to which I remember
something always I thought was strange. in the display cases
to either side as you entered the theater were lobby cards
capturing scenes from the film. one had Rasputin talking to
Alexi a scene which does not appear in the film. can anyone
remember any other roadshow engagements at any of the other
six theaters Times Square houses where the lobby cards
depicted scenes there weren’t in the film.
to vindanpar- you comment is the very problem i was
discussing. many years ago i was at a memorabilia shop
in L.A. and the owner let me browse thru the stakes in
back since i had shopped there for many years. just
as i was walking into the stacks the owner said “we just
got in the program for The Birth of a Nation”. my
heart almost jumped of my chest. unfortunately the
program while not falling apart was so worn there was
no point in buying it eventhough he was only charging $25.
to Al A.– I have often seen movie souvenir programs missing
from my collection posted on EBay. but I always wondered
especially when the seller is asking for a decent of $$$ what
the programs condition really is. at least in a memorabilia
shop you see exactly what you’re getting.
also to Mike (saps)– I know this may shock you but I am
one of the few New Yorkers who does not own a cell phone.
to clarify my earlier post. in my collection of 140 movie
souvenir programs 138 were printed in the US.. the only
two that weren’t were Cromwell which during its first run
engagement at this theater Columbia simply shipped over
the original U.K. program. the other being Tom Sawyer which
when it opened at RCMH the Spring of 1973 they likewise
simply shipped over the original U.K. program.
to vindanpar- I have a number of souvenir programs for
films that played RCMH. if I had an inkling that a film
might have one but didn’t see anyone hawking them I
always asked just to be sure.
also of films that had their exclusive first run
engagements at this theater two programs I have always
wanted to acquire but have never come across in any
memorabilia shop are Old Ironsides(1926) and
Can Can(1960).
to vindanpar- shocking may be too strong a term so I’ll say
it was highly surprising the omissions in Holston’s book. in
addition Holston has a few oddities. the book is by year
with the roadshow films of that year discussed alphabetically.
in 1962 he says “Gypsy” opened as a roadshow but doesn’t
say where. it certainly wasn’t in Manhattan. and films which
opened even just in L.A. on traditional roadshow runs(Darling
Lili and The Great Race)are in the appendix section on
films projected as roadshows during production but opened
regular.
an interesting bit of info about this theater. I have a large
collection of souvenir programs. 140 to be exact. every
souvenir program I have was printed in the U.S. but when
Cromwell(one of my favorite large scale historical dramas)
opened here Oct. 1970 they just imported over the original
U.K. program. in 140 item collection the only other time
that happened was when Tom Sawyer opened at RCMH the Spring
of 1973.
to vindanpar- I have not bought the Kennedy book since
it just on musicals released on roadshow engagements. the
only other book I’ve ever come across on the subject is
Movie Roadshows by Kim Holston which discusses all genres.
But while its suppose to be comprehensive it fails to
mention several roadshow films which is really odd.
to vindanpar- if you got the same Blu-ray of The Fall of the
Roman Empire that I did you’re bound to ne disappointed since
its not in the correct aspect ratio.
Hello-
to moviebuff82- thank you for your reply. I can see the thought you expressed as valid for some small film no had ever heard of. but for a big studio film on the opening weekend is highly surprising.
Hello-
did both “Holiday in Spain” and “The Golden Head” open here and if so were they advertised as being “in Cinerama”?
Hello-
I go to the 19tht St. a good deal and until rather recently they had 10a.m., 10:30a.m. or 11:00 etc….. for any big release on its opening weekend. so I’ve been surprised by the rather late first screening of the day for a number of such films.
Hello-
would anyone happen to know why a number of the AMC/Loews theaters recently have had rather late first screenings of the day even on Sat. and Sun.?
Hello-
I thought Russell did a rather nice job. but like Hepburn she couldn’t hit the high notes well so her vocals were enhanced by Kirk who assisted with the high notes.
Hello-
to digital3d- I wouldn’t mind seeing GM in the Dolby
Theater but without 3D. 3D is just a way of squeezing more
$$$ out of moviegoers. it fact 3D does nothing for 99%
of the films show that way.
Hello-
a question for people knowledgeable with projection. what was the point of Ang Lee shooting the film the way he did if no theater can in fact show it that way?
it s kind of like his last film Billy Lynn’s Long Half Time Walk. without the high frame rate projection there was nothing special about it. it was just a average film about a young man adjusting to home life after returning from war.
Hello-
to vindanpar- I had a feeling she had to have known. on the 50th Anniversary blu-ray disc they included Wouldn’t It Be Lovely and Show Me as Hepburn shot them. even better is on the soundtrack cd they should have included the songs as she shot them as a bonus. a few years ago they released a nicely remastered cd of the Gypsy soundtrack album. what made it special was simple- in addition to including all the soundtrack LP tracks they also included as a bonus all of Russell’s song as she shot them before her vocal’s were enhanced by Lisa Kirk I think it was.
Hello-
apparently very few theaters in the entire U.S. can show Gemini Man exactly the way Ang Lee shot it? but apparently some theaters will come damn close. which auditorium in this theater will show the film as close as possible to the way Ang Lee shot it?
Hello-
i should have said the reprise of Just You Wait as Eliza is kneeling front of the fireplace looking for the ring is all Hepburn but that the original rendition of the song was mostly Hepburn with an assist from Nixon.
also I have heard as well that till the premiere of MFL at this theater that Hepburn had no idea her vocals had almost totally been replaced. is it really possible she had no idea whatsoever?
Hello-
I saw Joker at the Valencia auditorium this past Sat. 10/5. I thought it ties with Suicide Squad as the worst, most lackluster most disappointing comic book derived film ever. I can’t be the only one with this reaction.
Hello-
to Mike(saps)– as they say beauty is in the eye of the
to vindanpar- a year or so before the Katz/Harris
to Al A.– if I am not mistaken Marni Nixon did not
Hello-
I happen to like Dr. Dolittle and saw it twice during its roadshow run at the Loews State. the still available Twilight Time Blu-ray disc in terms of richness of colors and the crispness, sharpness and clarity of both the picture image the multi-channel is everything a Blu-ray disc should be.
talk about a film being edited just before its premiere. aside form the image of Harrison riding on the giraffe on the cover of the soundtrack album the booklet enclosed has a description of a Prologue sequence that doesn’t appear on the Blu-ray. also the souvenir program sold in the lobby of the State has a description of Harrison singing a song about Emma(Samantha Eggar)at the end of the film that doesn’t appear on the Blu-ray disc either.
fortunately an A+ 2 disc cd set was released last year of
ALL the music recorded for the film.
Hello-
to Mikeoaklandpark- I saw The Rose three times during its 70MM exclusive engagement at the Ziegfeld. so I can imagine your horror when you took your friend to see it in one of the lower level auditoriums here. its kind of like who in God’s name would want to watch Lawrence of Arabia on an iPad or tablet?
Hello-
to Al A. thanks as always for your info filled replies. be that as it may I’m sure they had a number of other lobby cards they could have used. I don’t know how much before Nicholas and Alexandra opened that the staff at this theater did up the display cases to either side as you entered. but to include a photo of a scene they most have known wasn’t in the film while it may not meet the legal definition of false advertising was certainly a really odd thing to do.
Hello-
to Al A.–
I thank you for your reply. its just I would say roadshow engagements where a film played at only 1 theater in all of NYC for weeks, months or in many cases well over a year is a somewhat different case. the only thing I can think of is this- I think the film is just about perfect as is but the big wigs at Columbia may have said “hey at 3hrs. 9mins. it s long enough” so at the last minute they cut out any scenes not pertaining to the title characters. so I’m assuming the posters, lobby cards etc…. were shipped out even before the final cut was arrived at.
Hello-
Nicholas and Alexandra opened at this theater Dec. 0f 1971. its one of my favorite large scale historical dramas. its also this theater’s last roadshow engagement. to which I remember something always I thought was strange. in the display cases to either side as you entered the theater were lobby cards capturing scenes from the film. one had Rasputin talking to Alexi a scene which does not appear in the film. can anyone remember any other roadshow engagements at any of the other six theaters Times Square houses where the lobby cards depicted scenes there weren’t in the film.
Hello-
what was the last film advertised on the huge sign above
the Astor and the Victoria theaters?
Hello-
to vindanpar- you comment is the very problem i was discussing. many years ago i was at a memorabilia shop in L.A. and the owner let me browse thru the stakes in back since i had shopped there for many years. just as i was walking into the stacks the owner said “we just got in the program for The Birth of a Nation”. my heart almost jumped of my chest. unfortunately the program while not falling apart was so worn there was no point in buying it eventhough he was only charging $25.
Hello-
to Al A.– I have often seen movie souvenir programs missing from my collection posted on EBay. but I always wondered especially when the seller is asking for a decent of $$$ what the programs condition really is. at least in a memorabilia shop you see exactly what you’re getting.
also to Mike (saps)– I know this may shock you but I am one of the few New Yorkers who does not own a cell phone.
Hello-
to clarify my earlier post. in my collection of 140 movie souvenir programs 138 were printed in the US.. the only two that weren’t were Cromwell which during its first run engagement at this theater Columbia simply shipped over the original U.K. program. the other being Tom Sawyer which when it opened at RCMH the Spring of 1973 they likewise simply shipped over the original U.K. program.
to vindanpar- I have a number of souvenir programs for films that played RCMH. if I had an inkling that a film might have one but didn’t see anyone hawking them I always asked just to be sure.
also of films that had their exclusive first run engagements at this theater two programs I have always wanted to acquire but have never come across in any memorabilia shop are Old Ironsides(1926) and Can Can(1960).
Hello-
to vindanpar- shocking may be too strong a term so I’ll say it was highly surprising the omissions in Holston’s book. in addition Holston has a few oddities. the book is by year with the roadshow films of that year discussed alphabetically. in 1962 he says “Gypsy” opened as a roadshow but doesn’t say where. it certainly wasn’t in Manhattan. and films which opened even just in L.A. on traditional roadshow runs(Darling Lili and The Great Race)are in the appendix section on films projected as roadshows during production but opened regular.
an interesting bit of info about this theater. I have a large collection of souvenir programs. 140 to be exact. every souvenir program I have was printed in the U.S. but when Cromwell(one of my favorite large scale historical dramas) opened here Oct. 1970 they just imported over the original U.K. program. in 140 item collection the only other time that happened was when Tom Sawyer opened at RCMH the Spring of 1973.
Hello-
to vindanpar- I have not bought the Kennedy book since it just on musicals released on roadshow engagements. the only other book I’ve ever come across on the subject is Movie Roadshows by Kim Holston which discusses all genres.
But while its suppose to be comprehensive it fails to mention several roadshow films which is really odd.
Hello-
to vindanpar- if you got the same Blu-ray of The Fall of the Roman Empire that I did you’re bound to ne disappointed since its not in the correct aspect ratio.
Hello-
does anyone remember the last film advertised on the
HUGE sign over the Astor and the Victoria was?