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i thank AlAlvarez and techman707 for replying to
mu question. unfortunately the Loew’s State didn’t
open till August of 1921. this would place it 8
years after B.F. Moss' Regent(the 1st “movie palace” built in Manhattan)and 5 years after the first
Rialto(the first “movie palace” built in the
Times Square area).
now no offense meant toward nickelodeons but i
was always of the impression they were decent
sized storefronts/retail spaces etc.. . that
were renovated to show films but were not
theaters as we use the term today. so between
the movies debut at Koster and Bial’s Music
Hall in April of 1896 and the opening of B.F.
Moss' Regent in 1913 there had to been at least
one or two more moderate sized edifices built
specifically to show movies. i can’t believe
the Regent was the first purpose built movie
theater whether large,medium or small built
i know the B.F.Moss Regent on 135 St. was the
first “movie palace” built in Manhattan and that
the 1st Rialto of 1916 on 7th Ave.&42 St. was the
first “movie palace” built in the Times Square
area. this leads me to my question. after their
debut as it were at Koster and Bial’s Music Hall
in April of 1896 films had to be shown in quickly
redone/renovated theaters/music halls since
movie theaters obviously didn’t exist yet. so what
was the 1st purpose built from the ground up movie theater in Manhattan?
1.i went to the Gaiety on a regular enough basis
thru out the 30 years it was open. to the best
of my knowledge it was never known as the Kings
2.also the theater closed the 3rd week of March 2005 not 2006.
i’m sure every theater no matter how well built
it was or even if still in good condition doesn’t
get redone/refurbished etc….to some extant over
the years simply to keep it viable. so even if
the Chinese has been redone/refurnished etc…over
the years at least its still Chinese in mode and
is still a single screen first run theater since
the day it opened. so other than the Chinese the
only other theater i have found using this site
that fits the criteria in my March 22 post is the Uptown in D.C..
so i thank Danny B. for mentioning the Regency
Village. also i guess i should just use the term
grand old movie theater rather than palace. to
which is the Regency Village still a single
screen theater that has operated as a 1st run
venue since the day it opened? for instance in
terms of grand old movie theaters including
palaces we have the Castro in San Francisco
which is still a single screen venue and in
damn good shape. but although it has been in
continuous operation since the day it opened
in 1924? it was built from the get go as a 2nd/
3rd run neighborhood theater. i am referring to
theaters built as 1st run venues that have
continued to operate as such.
i would greatly appreciate it if my fellow
posters could hope me with the question in my
post of March 22.
thanks in advance.
Hello To Fellow Posters-
i originally asked this question a few
months back so i was wondering if anyone
has found the answer yet. when i first
came upon this excellent website was i
surprised in the intro above for this theater
above that for a short time it was called
the Mark 1-2-3. now i have been an avid
theatergoer most of my adult life and have
frequently used the TKTS booth which is
right across from this theater since the day
it opened in June of 1973. yet i never
remember seeing Mark 1-2-3 on the marquee
even for a minute amount of time. has anyone
ever found a photo?
i thank you for your reply but the Art Greenwich
was off of 12 St. a stone’s throw from the now
suttered St. Vincent’s Hospital. i am referring to
the two theaters that were actually on 8th St. the
8th St.Playhouse was almost at 6th. Avenue. the
other theater was almost at Bway. but its not listed
under any of the names i can think of. its now used
as an auditorium by NYU.
Hello to Everyone-
while i like this website immensely the 1 problem
is that theaters aren’t necessarily listed by the
name they’re best known by. i have been searching
for a bit to find a theater on 8th St. closer to
Broadway. i found the 8th St. Playhouse which was
closer to 6th Ave. but what was the name of the
theater closer to Bway. i can’t find it under any
of the names it knew it by. its now used by NYU as
Hello Again To My Fellow Posters-
while we’re on the subject. why is it that
some companies have been better at keeping prints
of their roadshow widescreen epics in damn good
condition that other companies? for instance none
of the dvds of UA’s widescreen roadshow epics
released by MGM Home Video have been the complete
roadshow prints. whereas all the dvds and now blu-ray
discs that Warner Bros. Home Video have released of
MGM’S widescreen roadshow epics have been the
complete roadshow prints. what gives?
Hello To My Fellow Posters-
speaking of negatives and prints etc…. i have
a question that has always bugged me a bit. in the
late 90s when vhs was still the dominant home
video format MGM/UA Home Video created a new vhs
series titled “MGM/UA Screen Epics”. all the films
were digitally remastered with new art work for
the slip case packaging. this is where my question
comes in- the prints of THE ALAMO,ITS MAD MAD
MAD MAD WORLD and HAWAII that were reissued in
this series were the original roadshow prints.
yet the currently available dvds of these three
films which are the only dvds i have ever come
across are the general release prints not the
roadshow prints. if complete roadshow prints were
available for the vhs series why not use them
for the dvds? is there a reason why they couldn’t?
Hello Again To Techman707- thank you for your
reply. you seem to know lots and lots so i figure
you were the person to ask. of course a number
of grand old movie theaters are alive and well
but not as movie theaters. in Manhattan Radio
City Music Hall is a prime example.
so i have to reiterate my original question- in
the 1913-1941 period countless grand movie theaters/
palaces were built in all 50 states at least half of
which have since been torn down. so of all the ones
still standing in all 50 states the Uptown in D.C.,
and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood are in fact the
only two continuely operated as 1st run movie
theaters in their original state/design since Day 1,
is that possible?
Hello To Techman707-
since i discovered this wonderful website last Feb.
who have been most helpful with any questions i had.
well here’s a good one i would appreciate your
help with finding the answer to.
the building phase for grand old movie theaters or
movie palaces to to use the popular term was approx.
1913 – 1941. unfortunately many of those theaters
have since been torn down. so my question pertains
to the ones still standing. here goes- of all the
grand old movie theaters still standing which have
not gutted for retail space, never became 2nd or 3rd run grind houses, never showed porn, were never
radio or t.v. studios, were not converted to concert
halls or performing arts centers and were not twinned,
tri-plexed or quaded but have stayed in more or less
their original design/condition as 1st run movie
theaters since the day they opened. using this
website the only 2 i have come across are the Uptown
in D.C. and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood. can
these be the only two in the entire country? how
cam i find out if they are any others. many thanks
in advance for you assistance.
Hello To My Fellow Posters-
i came across this website a year ago and was
hooked from the get go. so i set up a project for
myself- find as many grand old movie theaters or
palaces to use the popular term that have not
been gutted for retail space, were never a 2nd/3rd
run or grind house, never showed porn, never used
as a radio or t.v. studio, never converted to
a concert hall or performing art center and were
never twined, tri-plexed or if large enough
quaded but and this is a big BUT has stayed in
more or less their original state,design/condition
as 1st run movie theater since the day it opened.
thru my searching so far i have only found this
theater and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood. they
can’t be the only ones in the entire country
can they? anyone know of other ones still
operating as 1st run theaters?
Hello To My Fellow Posters-
i discovered this website a year ago and was
hooked. therefore i set up a project for myself-
to find grand old movie theaters or palaces to
use the popular term that fit these criteria-
haven’t been torn down or gutted for retail
space, never became a 2nd/3rd run or grind house,
never showed porn, never used as a radio or
t.v. studio, wasn’t converted to a concert hall
or performing arts center, and was never twined,
tri-plexed or if large enough quaded but and
this is a big BUT has stayed in its original
state/design/condition as a 1st run movie theater
since the day it opened. using this site the
only two i’ve found are the Uptown in D.C. and
of course Grauman’s Chinese. they can’t be the
only ones in the entire country can they? do
my fellow posters know of any other theaters
that fit my criteria. many thanks in advance.
Hello from NYC. i find many recent postings
quite fascinating. first off the many comments
as to why the Chinese didn’t book one of the many
“big” year end flicks but THE DARKEST HOUR instead.
Considering the many “big” year end flicks this surprises me as well since the only other
theaters in the immediate area is the Cinerama
Dome/Archlight and the El Capitan.
Also the many comments about raising ticket
prices. i was always under the assumption that
first run theaters in Manhattan had the highest
prices. Obviously 3-D, IMAX and 3-D IMAX have
surcharges but the highest price for a regular
first run theater is $13.50 at theaters run by
the Regal chain.
Hello to my fellow posters. i discovered this
website the end of January and have greatly enjoyed
it ever since. now if i’m not mistaken the golden
age of movie palace building was approx. 1913 to
1941. now i set up a project for myself using this
website. its simple-of movie palaces build during
this period and still standing how many have not
been gutted for retail space, turned into 2nd or
3rd run grind houses, never showed porn, never used
as a radio ot t.v. studio, never converted into
concert halls or performing arts center, or twinned,
tri-plexed or quaded but have stayed in more or
less there original condition as 1st run movie
theaters since the day they opened. using this
website i have only come across 2-Grauman’s Chinese
and the Uptown Theater in D.C. can they be the only
2 in the whole country? so does anyone know of any
others that fit my criteria? thanks in advance.
i have a question that i hope someone can answer.
i have been a big fan of the Ziegfeld Theater since
it opened Dec 1969 with the roadshow engagement of
MAROONED. i’m as amazed as i am delighted that
the theater is still alive and well. with real
estate in Manhattan i’m sure the land under the
theater is worth like a bazillion dollars. so my
question is simple- with the land value how is it
that the theater hasn’t been torn down and the
land redeveloped? look at the Loew’s Tower East it
closed because AMC couldn’t be bothered with
running a single screen movie theater.
Hello To My Fellow Posters.
the Roxy was torn down the summer of 1960 and i
doubt everything was going along swimmingly and
a month before someone said-“oh lets tear down the
Roxy”. so i’m hedging the bet the decision to do
so was decided upon years before. so when exactly
was the decision to tear it down decided on? in
1956 the Roxy had 3 big Cinemascope hits from 20th
Fox-CAROUSEL, ANASTASIA and THE KING AND I. so could
the decision have been made as early as 1956?
I have been reading the many posts about the
preservation or not in NYC of grand old movie
theaters. San Francisco is in the same boat. none
of the grand old movie theaters built as first run
theaters during the golden age of such construction
survive as movie theaters first run or revival.
the Castro doesn’t quite fit the description since
it was built from the get go as a second or third
run neighborhood theater.
now in the discussion of the non-preservation of
grand old movie houses the Roxy has often been
brought up. when i started going into Manhattan
on my own i was able to catch the Criterion,Loews
State,DeMille,Warner, Rivoli and the Loews Capitol
in their more or less original condition. the Roxy
unfortunately was torn down June/July 1960? so
i wasn’t able to see its wonders. to which a
question for historians of the Roxy- when was it
decided to tear down the theater? i can’t imagine
is was decided on the weekend of the demolition.
i’m guessing the decision was made years before.
also another point about the preservation or not
of grand old movie theaters. the six Times Square
movie theaters mentioned above as i knew them were
large but the Roxy was as it was often described
a cathedral. so isn’t the reason it and the also
cathedral like Fox on Market St. in San Francisco
were torn down wasn’t because no one liked the
architecture or the projection and sound but
because movie theaters that big by the late 50s
had become point blank economically unviable as
single screen movie theaters? i look forward to
my fellow posters thoughts on the subject.
to techman707- just wanted to say Hello and hope that
some day real soon you will find a
photo of the triplexed "DeMille" with
Mark 1/2/3 actually on the marquee. as
i said i often went there after the
tri-plexing and never remember seeing
it on the marquee.
one new question. for the past several
years the huge sign that wraps around
the building has advertised Broadway
shows. now what was the last film to
play the "DeMille" that used the
wrap around sign?
i don’t mind slow paced films. A SINGLE MAN(2009)
with Colin Firth was slow placed but wasn’t boring
for a second. my point being there’s big difference
between slow paced films and just plain boring ones.
isn’t the theater’s “warning” sign an admission
on their part that the film is an incoherent boring piece of cinematic claptrap?
Hello to Techman707-
i was wondering if you’ve located a photo of the
front of the theater when Mark1/2/3 was actually
on the marquee yet. as said i went to the theater
often enough after it was tri-plexed so i should
have come across Mark ½/3 on the marquee on at
least one or two occasions. but i simply don’t
recollect it. hopefully you have found a photo.
i was wondering if you have come across
a photo of the theater front with Mark 1,2,3
actually on the marquee. as you have said this
was done right after the theater closed as the
single screen DeMille and was tri-plexed. as i
have likewise said i often went to the theater
right after it was tri-plexed but quite
honestly never remember taking note of Mark
1,2,3 being on the marquee.
thanks to Al A. for his learned assessment
on the subject. in fact your reply prompts
an additional question on my part. as i
understand it the golden age of movie palace
building was approx. 1910 thru say 1941?
now of all those theaters it would be interesting to find out of the three reasons
listed below percentage wise which caused the
most movie theaters to close.
b)t.v. sucking the life out of the movie biz
c)the neighborhood “changing”