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I happen to like Dr. Dolittle and saw it twice during its
roadshow run at the Loews State. the still available Twilight
Time Blu-ray disc in terms of richness of colors and the
crispness, sharpness and clarity of both the picture image
the multi-channel is everything a Blu-ray disc should be.
talk about a film being edited just before its premiere.
aside form the image of Harrison riding on the giraffe
on the cover of the soundtrack album the booklet enclosed
has a description of a Prologue sequence that doesn’t
appear on the Blu-ray. also the souvenir program sold in the lobby of the State has a description of Harrison singing
a song about Emma(Samantha Eggar)at the end of the film
that doesn’t appear on the Blu-ray disc either.
fortunately an A+ 2 disc cd set was released last year ofALL the music recorded for the film.
to Mikeoaklandpark- I saw The Rose three times during its
70MM exclusive engagement at the Ziegfeld. so I can imagine
your horror when you took your friend to see it in one of
the lower level auditoriums here. its kind of like who in
God’s name would want to watch Lawrence of Arabia on an
iPad or tablet?
to Al A. thanks as always for your info filled
replies. be that as it may I’m sure they had a number
of other lobby cards they could have used. I don’t
know how much before Nicholas and Alexandra opened
that the staff at this theater did up the display
cases to either side as you entered. but to include
a photo of a scene they most have known wasn’t in the
film while it may not meet the legal definition of
false advertising was certainly a really odd thing
to Al A.–
I thank you for your reply. its just I would say roadshow
engagements where a film played at only 1 theater in all of
NYC for weeks, months or in many cases well over a year is
a somewhat different case. the only thing I can think of
is this- I think the film is just about perfect as is but
the big wigs at Columbia may have said “hey at 3hrs. 9mins.
it s long enough” so at the last minute they cut out any
scenes not pertaining to the title characters. so I’m
assuming the posters, lobby cards etc…. were shipped out
even before the final cut was arrived at.
Nicholas and Alexandra opened at this theater Dec. 0f 1971.
its one of my favorite large scale historical dramas. its also
this theater’s last roadshow engagement. to which I remember
something always I thought was strange. in the display cases
to either side as you entered the theater were lobby cards
capturing scenes from the film. one had Rasputin talking to
Alexi a scene which does not appear in the film. can anyone
remember any other roadshow engagements at any of the other
six theaters Times Square houses where the lobby cards
depicted scenes there weren’t in the film.
what was the last film advertised on the huge sign abovethe Astor and the Victoria theaters?
to vindanpar- you comment is the very problem i was
discussing. many years ago i was at a memorabilia shop
in L.A. and the owner let me browse thru the stakes in
back since i had shopped there for many years. just
as i was walking into the stacks the owner said “we just
got in the program for The Birth of a Nation”. my
heart almost jumped of my chest. unfortunately the
program while not falling apart was so worn there was
no point in buying it eventhough he was only charging $25.
to Al A.– I have often seen movie souvenir programs missing
from my collection posted on EBay. but I always wondered
especially when the seller is asking for a decent of $$$ what
the programs condition really is. at least in a memorabilia
shop you see exactly what you’re getting.
also to Mike (saps)– I know this may shock you but I am
one of the few New Yorkers who does not own a cell phone.
to clarify my earlier post. in my collection of 140 movie
souvenir programs 138 were printed in the US.. the only
two that weren’t were Cromwell which during its first run
engagement at this theater Columbia simply shipped over
the original U.K. program. the other being Tom Sawyer which
when it opened at RCMH the Spring of 1973 they likewise
simply shipped over the original U.K. program.
to vindanpar- I have a number of souvenir programs for
films that played RCMH. if I had an inkling that a film
might have one but didn’t see anyone hawking them I
always asked just to be sure.
also of films that had their exclusive first run
engagements at this theater two programs I have always
wanted to acquire but have never come across in any
memorabilia shop are Old Ironsides(1926) and
to vindanpar- shocking may be too strong a term so I’ll say
it was highly surprising the omissions in Holston’s book. in
addition Holston has a few oddities. the book is by year
with the roadshow films of that year discussed alphabetically.
in 1962 he says “Gypsy” opened as a roadshow but doesn’t
say where. it certainly wasn’t in Manhattan. and films which
opened even just in L.A. on traditional roadshow runs(Darling
Lili and The Great Race)are in the appendix section on
films projected as roadshows during production but opened
an interesting bit of info about this theater. I have a large
collection of souvenir programs. 140 to be exact. every
souvenir program I have was printed in the U.S. but when
Cromwell(one of my favorite large scale historical dramas)
opened here Oct. 1970 they just imported over the original
U.K. program. in 140 item collection the only other time
that happened was when Tom Sawyer opened at RCMH the Spring
to vindanpar- I have not bought the Kennedy book since
it just on musicals released on roadshow engagements. the
only other book I’ve ever come across on the subject is
Movie Roadshows by Kim Holston which discusses all genres.
But while its suppose to be comprehensive it fails to
mention several roadshow films which is really odd.
to vindanpar- if you got the same Blu-ray of The Fall of the
Roman Empire that I did you’re bound to ne disappointed since
its not in the correct aspect ratio.
does anyone remember the last film advertised on theHUGE sign over the Astor and the Victoria was?
didn’t Young Winston have an exclusive roadshow engagementhere Dec. 0f 1972?
its nice he Village East is legally protected. in the
case of the Cinema ½/3 regardless of any rumors do they
own the building?
of the 5 theaters run by City Cinemas 3 have closed sinceMay- 86 St. East, the Paris and the Beekman. so the onlytwo left are the Cinema ½/3 and the Village East. mightit be that they actually own those buildings?
does the demolition of this theater effect thekinish bakery next door?
also in the new Sweet Charity Blu-ray you get a nicesomewhat aerial shot of the intersection of Bway, 7th Ave.and 47 St.. the fall of 1968. you can clearly see Warand Peace on the marquee of the Demille.
one film I would love to see on a top notch Blu-ray
disc is the original roadshow cut of Star!.
to Ken Roe thanks for the info. I got the Blu-ray you made
note of and was rather disappointed by the incorrect aspect
ration. a botched job just like The Hallelujah Trail. all
the other Blu-ray discs I have of films shot in Ultra
Panavision 70 are in the correct 2.75.1 aspect ratio.
the recent 50th Anniversary 4k restoration has A+ picture
quality. there are 2 discs. the first has the roadshow
version with the bittersweet ending. it does have the
overture and intermission. the second has the version
with the happy ending that Fosse filmed but refused to use.
this eliminates the overture and intermission. plus it
cuts the scene of the hippie flower children giving
Charity the flower perking her spirits up.
also the roadshow version gives us nice shots of the
Astor Hotel, the original Yankee Stadium and as Charity
is exiting the southeast corner of Central Park at the
film’s conclusion a glimpse of the marquee of the Paris
to vindanpar- I am one of those fans that was rather
disappointed by Kino Lorber’s recent blu-ray of The
Hallelujah Trail. aside form the fact the perfect image
was a bit off its was in the 2.35.2 aspect ratio not
2.75.1 since it was as you stated shot in Ultra-Panavison
70. if a blu-ray disc of The Fall of the Roman Empire
ever comes out it had better be in the 2.75.1 aspect ratio.
to my fellow moviegoers who remember the roadshow runs
held at this theater and the Loews State, RKO Palace,
the Demille, the Warner, the Rivoli and the Loews Capitol.
in reference to vandanpar’s 9/11/19 comment. does any one
ever remember a theater running out of souvenir programs?
of all the roadshow engagements I attended(in the
Set. 1952 to Dec. 1972 period)I never remember a theater
running out of souvenir programs.
to Bill H.– its highly possible I saw the original cut.
I bought my ticket when the box office first opened.
I remember meeting Jack Wrangler here when he did a
personal appearence at the height of his gay porn
to vindanpar- I still can not believe that during N&A’s
roadshow run at this theater that the marquee only had big
block letters and never the glass or plastic plates with
the art work. rather highly unusual for a roadshow film.
I did buy the souvenir program the first time I saw the
film. its rather nice. in reference to your case with
all the roadshow films I saw I never remember a theater
running out of souvenir programs.
also whenever Twilight Tine releases a blu-ray disc buy it
immediately don;t wait. i looked at Amazon and there is a
all regions blu-ray from Spain. that’s reasonably priced.